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He also did the 1987 horror movie Anguish starring Michael Lerner and Zelda Rubinstein.
I have this one on Anchor Bay dvd, which they released in 2000. Pretty cool stuff !

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It has just been announced Margaret Thatcher died this morning after suffering a stroke at age 87.

I don't know much about British politics, but what i understood is that Thatcher wasn't really a big fan
of any kind of youth-culture, and also played a part in the strict rules of British censorship during the 80's.

So i guess i better keep my opinion to myself and leave it to people from the UK to comment on this one.

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Oh, I forgot to mop the bathroom!
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I feel your sorrow. [Big Grin]
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How did The Young Ones get past her screening process? [Smile]
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Nigel Wingrove, founder of Redemption Films, wrote an interesting piece about UK censorship
as an introduction to his excellent book The Art Of The Nasty.
The book quickly became outdated though, because it was originally published in 1998, just before
the dvd boom. Movies that had been unavailable for many years were easily available within years
after the book came out. A completely revised and updated version of the book was published in 2009.

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richard brooker who was in my oppinion the best ever jason vorhees (friday the 13th part 3) sadly passed away yesterday at the age of 59,richard was the first actor in the long running horror series to don the infamous hockey mask.

http://youtu.be/yIHGGsH6Las - richard brooker in action in friday the 13th part 3.

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r.i.p - richard brooker.

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RIP Andy Johns, famous music producer who worked with the Rolling Stones and Led Zeppelin.
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/music-arts/legendary-producer-andy-johns-dead-62-article-1.1312024

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Richard LeParmentier, best-known for playing admiral Motti in the original Star Wars passed away at the age of 66.
He also played supporting roles in Superman 2 and Who Framed Roger Rabbit, and had been married to
actress Sarah Douglas (Ursa in Superman 1 and 2, and Queen Taramis in Conan The Destroyer).

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As today was Margaret Thatcher's funeral, it's probably a good time for my personal $0.02...

I'm slightly confused that the establishment of the Video Recordings Act has been mentioned above, as if this is something that was a bad thing. Prior to her time as PM, video home movies were barely invented, and nobody needed such legislation. As it was, the immense surge in availability of movie tapes meant that this new industry NEEDED to be legislated, and that's what was done. The banning of a very very small number of movies was decided by the censors, not by the government. And in most cases, rightly so.

In the wider world, Mrs Thatcher did a lot of things that were hailed as brilliant or vilified as heinous, depending on the colour of your vote. She acted as she needed to to retake the Falklands from the invading forces from Argentina, she took on the Trade Unions that had strangled the economy of the country, she allowed social housing tenants the right to buy the home they had lived in for years, and gave people th opportunity to aspire to success if they were prepared to put in the graft - something that just wasn't possible before she came to power.

She stood with Reagan and worked with Gorbachev to end the cold war, and the sight of the Berlin Wall being demolished by millions of joyful German people is an image that will stay with me forever. The result of this is that my kids are growing up in a world far safer than the one I grew up in.

Above all, she did what she thought was right and stood by her convictions - instead of doing what she thought was popular and standing by her spin-doctors.

IMO, we could do with a little of her leadership spirit today...

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Two things :

quote:
Originally posted by P_a_u_l:
The banning of a very very small number of movies was decided by the censors, not by the government. And in most cases, rightly so.

Do you mean the banning of certain movies was justified, or did i misunderstand ?
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And second :

quote:
Originally posted by P_a_u_l:
The result of this is that my kids are growing up in a world far safer than the one I grew up in.

I honestly doubt this can be true.
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quote:
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Two things :

quote:
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The banning of a very very small number of movies was decided by the censors, not by the government. And in most cases, rightly so.

Do you mean the banning of certain movies was justified, or did i misunderstand ?
In my opinion, yes - the banning of some movies
is justified, where the material warrants such action.

Just because you can make a movie where the sole purpose appears to be to see how many gratuitous violence scenes of dismemberment and torture can be graphically shown in 90 minutes, doesn't mean that you should. The BBFC have been refusing movies certificates for decades, and this legislation merely extended their powers to the new media of the time.

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quote:
Originally posted by Johnny Roarke is reckless:
And second :

quote:
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The result of this is that my kids are growing up in a world far safer than the one I grew up in.

I honestly doubt this can be true.
Doubt all you like, but they are not in danger from nuclear war, as I was, because the leaders of the worlds most powerful nations couldn't sit round a table together. The current issues with terrorism are different, and global 24-7 media places this in our faces so much these days that it appears to be a much more dangerous world than I believe it actually is.

Or are you doubting that this is my opinion, in which case you are, again, wrong.

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What would Clint Eastwood say about censorship?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9xpkiHiwwo

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The censoring of something that's solely created for entertainment purposes (whether it be movies, books or music)
can NEVER, under NO circumstances, be a good thing !

Movies getting banned for none other reason than being distasteful ?? Come on.. personal tastes differ, you know !

I am perfectly capable of deciding myself whether if i want to watch something that's bound to offend or shock.
I don't need any government interfering or deciding for me what i can or can't watch, read, or listen to.

As for those movies 'where the sole purpose appears to be to see how many gratuitous violent scenes
of dismemberment and torture can be graphically shown in 90 minutes' : Such movies do NOT exist !
All of these so-called video nasties actually contain very few scenes of graphic gore and splatter.
In the most extreme cases it would be somewhere around 10 minutes, tops. Most of the banned movies
only had about 1 - 4 minutes of material that was deemed unsuitable for people to watch.
And most surprisingly, many of these scenes were rather cheesy or fake looking, so it's anyone's guess
who could actually feel offended !

On the other issue, Paul and i seem to disagree. I just said i doubt today's world is a safer place for kids
to grow up in than it was 30 years ago. I never said Paul's opinion was wrong.
I just disagreed, whereas Paul seemed to dismiss my opinion as being wrong, for some reason.

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At least i seem to have Clint on my side though ! [Big Grin]
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My point was that the banning of certain video movies for sale in this country had nothing to do with a clampdown on 'video nasties' - these movies were very likely already refused a license in movie theatres (or in the case of straight-to-video titles, would never get a certificate) and as such were banned due to pre-existing legislation. Whereas the post above seemed to imply that the Video recordings Act (1984) was the cause of the bans - which it wasn't.

However, we will need to disagree whether or not ALL censorship is wrong, or whether some censorship contimues to be justified.

However, this is an In Memoriam thread, and so please, let's get the thread back on track and end this sidebar here.

Thanks

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As I suggested - let's get this back on track.

Any other discussions about censorship etc are more properly undertaken on the Say Almost Anything thread.....

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Paul I know censorship has been around for hundreds of years and long before the video recordings act was ever brought in but I just always presumed it was because of the video recordings act and these new guide lines the BBfC had to adhere to that all these so called video nasties were originally banned because it was at about at this time that they all started dissapearing from the shelves.

You are right in my original post I had it in my head and made it sound like it was the government of the time that would of had these films banned but in reality it would have been nothing of the sought,they just passed the bill in the houses of parliament,it would have been the likes of the BBfC that would have deemed these movies not fit for home viewing,silly me I should think a bit more before I put things down as fact.

I've got nothing against Margaret thatcher as such even though reading my original post you'd probably think otherwise,she done somethings I wouldn't have agreed with but she also done many things I would have definitely been behind her with,enabling people to buy there own council house being one.

I'm not a strong believer in censoring material that's aimed at adults but I do believe that we should try and protect our kids from seeing these types of images as best we can.

Anyhow sorry to bring up the topic of censorship again just that I wanted to go some way towards correcting the mistakes I made in my original post.

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Guys, when I said that this thread was off topic, I meant it. All comments after that reauest have now been deleted. This thread is for memories of people that have dies, not an attack on those people or discussions on movie censorship.

No more.

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Guys, if you want a discussion on the rights or wrongs of censorship, start a dediocated thread.

Keep it non-political as well, otherwise I'll need to close it, because political arguments online ALWAYS get out of hand.

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Chrissie Amphlett, frontwoman as well as singer for Australian rock band Divinyls, best known for such songs as "Boys In Town," "Pleasure And Pain" and "I Touch Myself," died yesterday from breast cancer.

She was 53.

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Wow, never saw that coming! She was hot back in the day.
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Folksinger Richie Havens passed away at the age of 72 after suffering a stroke.

Havens was the opening act at the legendary Woodstock festival in 1969, and his song Freedom
became one of the best-known anthems for the love-generation.

Richie Havens performing Freedom at Woodstock '69 : www.youtube.com/watch?v=tf1B9ktRCkg

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