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Some Kind Of Wonderful (1987)

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eith (Eric Stoltz) is not your typical student.

Unlike most kids at your average American school, he doesn't really fit into any established clique, because he shuns Sport for Art, his family are far too 'normal' to be either pompously rich or sickeningly poor, his academic achievements are average, his best friend Watts (Mary Stuart Masterson) is a drum-playing tomboy, and he has the temerity to worship the 'in-crowd' pretty girl Amanda Jones (Lea Thompson) from afar.

Suddenly this distance is closed when Thompson sees her overtly rich and slimy boyfriend Hardy Jenns (Craig Sheffer) for the scuzball he is, and kind of falls into accepting a date with Stoltz to show Sheffer that she meant it when she dumped him. And although she soon regrets her impetuous act, it's now too late - she really has to go through with the date.

And it's the action surrounding the date that really makes this movie shine - there's the disbelief of Thompson's friends when she passes on opportunities to ditch Stolz. There's the incredulity of Stolz's friends and family (especially his younger sister) that anyone, let alone Amanda Jones, would go out on a date with him. There's the attempt by Stoltz's father (played by John Ashton in a manner that makes you feel that if Homer Simpson was real, he would be just like this) to control his family and his anger when he discovers Stoltz has spent all his college money on a gift for his date. There's Stolz's burgeoning friendship with the 'out' crowd, led wonderfully by the mis-understood skinhead Duncan (Elias Koteas). And most of all, there's the unstated but overpowering love that Masterson has for Stoltz, complicated further by her offer to drive on the night of the big date.

Of course, a scuzball like Hardy Jenns would never leave things alone when he's been slighted, and so Sheffer starts plotting to get Thompson back, and have his 'heavies' pound Stoltz into the bargain. Stolz hears of this, but is still determined to go through with what could be his perfect date, and so the scene is set for culmination of the movie, when everyone gets what they deserve (yes, even Duncan the Skinhead).

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Now I'm a little biased here, because I feel so positive about most of the movies that John Hughes has been involved with. Hughes was the driving force behind a whole heap of 'Brat Pack' movies through the 80's, and there are many that have attained near-cult status. 'Ferris Beuller's Day Off' is a great example of the type. Others, such as 'The Breakfast Club', stand alone as perhaps the greatest example in movie history of how a handful of good actors, backed by a great script and a message, can combine for something really special.

Some Kind Of Wonderful is one of Hughes' lesser-known efforts, given the ratings on the Internet Movie Database, and the fact that far fewer people appear to know it or to have seen it. For me, this is a great pity, because I feel it is the best example of Hughes work. It has a great deal of understated humor, the key elements of the 'in' and 'out' crowds, and good acting that brings believable characters to life.

Many people I know who watch the movie come back to me with a story about how they identified with one particular character. Mostly the girls are split fairly even between the two female leads. There is Lea Thompson's character, who was struggling to fit somewhere, trying to be a part of the rich kids group, and then trying to stand alone again, which was possibly harder for her, given her looks and popularity. Then there is Watts, played by the beautiful Mary Stuart Masterson, who I have been told plays the typical "I love you, but I won't say anything, because you might say no, then I'd lose you as a friend" scenario that many less-confident girls go through. The guys are easier. Mainly they go for Stolz (who wouldn't want the chance of being with Lea Thompson and Mary Stuart Masterson, both on the same night!) but a surprising amount identify with the anti-hero skinhead, Duncan.


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Lea Thompson won the Young Artist Award for the film for Best Young Actress in a Motion Picture, Drama. -Thanks to Stephanie


Craig Sheffer went on to play a lead role in the TV series One Tree Hill. -Thanks to Rachelle

"Watts'" first name is Susan (in the original script Keith calls her Susan in the final kissing scene). -Thanks to Dave Cox

Mary Stuart Masterson is the daughter of independent film maker Peter Masterson. -Thanks to Shawn

Mary Stuart Masterson's father, Peter Masterson is also an actor who had prominent parts in The Stepford Wives (1975) and The Exorcist. -Thanks to Ross Howard

All three main characters have connections with the Rolling Stones: Thompson's character Amanda Jones (after the song, which is played in the movie), A drummer named Watts, and Stoltz' character is named Keith.

Eric Stolz and Elias Koteas star together again in the Prophecy with Christopher Walken. -Thanks to Lei Demaris

Molly Hagen, who plays Shayne in the film would later turn up as Matthew Broderick's wife in "Election". -Thanks to Rodney Powell

For those of you wondering who painted the awesome portrait of Amanda Jones for the movie, check the credits... Buried in there is the name Han Xin - credited as 'Portrait Artist'. See - I KNEW that Eric Stoltz couldn't be that good an actor AND a brilliant artist as well! -Thanks to P.S. It's Paul..

Maddie Corman, who played Keith's sister in the film was later in "Maid in Manhatten" with Jennifer Lopez. She was the stroppy assistant who wouldn't get off the phone to her friend. She also starred in "Mickey Blue Eyes" alongside Hugh Grant as a friend of the bride that was jilted.

Some critics argued that the movie was just a gender-reversed version of the previous hit Pretty in Pink. However, as the ending to Pretty In Pink was changed after poor audience reviews, it's entirely possible that Some Kind Of Wonderful was far closer to Hughes' vision than his earlier movie.

Elias Koteas also played the famous role as Hockey vigilante Casey Jones in "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles" (1990). -Thanks to Christian Romero

Eric Stolz and Lea Thompson also starred together in the film "The Wild Life" (1984). -Thanks to Joe

Chynna Phillips, one of the lead singers of the 90s trio Wilson Phillips and daughter to John/Michelle Phillips of the Mamas and the Papas, appeared in the film as "Mia". -Thanks to Stephen

Thanks to her Mom's role in "Sixteen Candles", Mary Stewart Masterson got the role of 'Watts' in this movie. -Thanks to Kayla G

John Hughes originally wanted Molly Ringwald for the Amanda Jones role. Molly refused the role and didn't work with Hughes again. -Thanks to Stephanie And Sean

Lea Thompson eventually married Howard Deutch, the director of the film. -Thanks to Sean

Hardy Jenns and some of his band of pampered peers make an unexpected brief first appearance in the movie as Keith gets out of the car driven by Watts and at once faces the villian of the movie. -Thanks to Rodney

Eric Stoltz was the original Marty McFly in the film "Back To The Future". However, the film's Director allegedly worried after the first few days of shooting that Stoltz could not carry the humor he wanted. Although Michael J Fox was busy still with Family Ties, he was allowed to film BTTF in the evening after the show's shooting finished. Incidentally, Eric Stoltz also played Rocky Dennis alongside Cher in the film "Mask". -Thanks to Andy

The actress that plays Keith's youngest sister is Candace Cameron, real-life sister of Kirk Cameron and star of "Full House."

The older sister, played by Maddie Corman, has a cameo in John Favreau's "Swingers" at the very end. She's plays the woman whom Vince Vaughn's character thinks is making eyes at him, when in fact she's playing with her baby. She also plays a feminist in "PCU." -Thanks to Kim Jacobsmeyer

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Martha Coolidge (director of "Valley Girl") was originally hired to direct the film but was replaced by Howard Deutch.

Eric Stoltz and Lea Thompson were actually dating during the making of the movie. So that scene in which Mary Stuart Masterson and Stoltz kiss for the first time and they're blushing, it's not make-up. They really are blushing. -Thanks to Stephanie &Amp; Mel

In the final scenes, Keith and Watts walk down the street, presumably towards home, while Amanda is left to find her own way home, leaving the Jaguar, with the keys left in by Watts, sitting in front of Hardy's house. But in the original script, Amanda is given a ride home by Shane, while Keith and Watts walk back to get the Jaguar.

This movie's school location was filmed at San Pedro High school in San Pedro, CA. -Thanks to Michelle Bacon

Eric Stoltz and Lea Thompson were good friends long before the making of the film. Stoltz actually dropped off the script to Lea Thompson, who was physically shaking from all of the bad reviews of the film Howard the Duck in which she had just played the lead role in. She originally didn't want to star in the film because she feared she couldn't survive the humiliation of another flop. But Stoltz's excitement of the script was contagious and the rest is history. -Thanks to Stephanie

In the scene in which Keith arrives home and first talks to his dad about college, his father says he wants Keith to be the first guy in the family who doesn't have to wash his hands after a day's work. Keith shows him his oily and dirty hand. Keith appears then to go upstairs directly to his room and his hands are completely clean. (did he swing by the bathroom to wash 'em?) :) -Thanks to Carmen

When Amanda is getting ready for the big date with Keith she puts on gold hoop earrings but when he picks her up, voila, they have turned into diamond studs! -Thanks to Stephanie

In the scene where Watt's "blesses herself" (sign of the cross), if you notice she uses the wrong hand. She uses her LEFT hand to make the sign of the cross, you always use your RIGHT hand. What? There wasn't even ONE Catholic in the entire Cast and Crew? -Thanks to Dyan

In the scene where Amanda and Hardy are getting gas and he closes the hood, he doesn't have the dipstick and then a second later he does and then throws it into the trash. -Thanks to Julian

After Keith and Amanda walk out of Hardy's house Keith un-tucks his shirt and when Keith and Amanda get to the driveway his shirt is tucked in again. -Thanks to Calley Krull

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Featured Movie Location: Keith's house
Wanna see the real life filming location used for Keith's house in the movie? These scenes were actually shot at a private residence, located in Wilmington, S. California. [New! Show Google Map]


Amanda's house was filmed right around the corner at 1319 West E St., Wilmington, CA [Thanks to Dave Cox]

Watt's house was located at 1443 Emden St., Wilmington, CA. [Thanks to Dave Cox]

Hardy Jens house is located in the Hancock Park section of Los Angeles, more specifically: 516 Hudson Ave. [Thanks to Dave Cox]

The mall used was 'The Brickwalk', 717 Deep Valley Dr., Palos Verdes Peninsula, CA. [Thanks to Dave Cox]

The restaurant they visit for the date was: L' Hermitage (now Koi Restaurant: 730 No. La Cienega Blvd., West Hollywood, CA. [Thanks to Dave Cox]

The High school shots were filmed at San Pedro High School, 1001 W. 15th Street, San Pedro, CA. They filmed there in 1986 over summer break. Most of the extras were students at the time. The studio even had a private showing of the movie for the students at the Warran Grand. [Thanks to Cinamon]

The Hollywood Bowl was used for the scene during the date where they have their serious talk about how they were using one another.

The gas station scenes were filmed in Beverly Hills/West L.A. on Pico Blvd. Just a few blocks over from the intersection of Robertson and Pico. It is no longer a gas station and is now a mechanic shop.

The scene in the mall where the sister is hanging with her friends and overhears Marty discussing how he's going beat up Stolz at the party was filmed at Fred Segal in Santa Monica Ca. [Thanks to Julian]

Keith Nelsons residence in the movie is located at 1441 D street, Wilminton, about a 5 min walk from Amanda's house and probably the same from Watts house. He also mentions in the film that he lived at D street just under the bridge from Amanda's which is true. [Thanks to Steven Cole]

Can you help? Do you know any of the S. California (or any other) filming locations used for Some Kind Of Wonderful, particularly The club etc.? [Please send them in]

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The 'way ahead of its time' soundtrack features artists like Jesus-and-the-Mary-Chain, and so many other cool 'pre-grunge' classics that John Hughes saw coming. It is brilliant pastiche of 'intelligent' 80's rock and pop. It includes the seminal track, used at several points in the movie, "(You must be out of your) Brilliant Mind" by Furniture amongst others by such artists as The Jesus And Mary Chain and Stephen Duffy.

The opening track in the film, which doesn't appear on the sound track, is called 'Dr Mabuse' and is taken from the Album 'Secret Wish' By Propoganda, a German group. [Thanks to Andy Nicolson]

The music that is playing during the entire Jenns party scene is an extended dance version Charlie Sexton's "Beat So Lonely". Neither this track nor Billy Idol's "Catch my Fall" appear on the motion picture soundtrack album. [Thanks to John McGovern]

The opening track in the film, which doesn't appear on the sound track, is called 'Abuse' and is taken from the Remix Album 'Wishful Thinking' By Propoganda, a German group. -Thanks to Martin

In the scene where Keith breaks the alarm, the music is from a Billy Idol song called "Catch My Fall" which is available on his "Rebel Yell" album. -Thanks to Erin

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Some Kind Of Wonderful Movie Details
Year:
1987
Studio:
Paramount
Director:
Howard Deutch
Starring:
Eric Stoltz, Lea Thompson, Mary Stuart Masterson, Craig Sheffer, John Ashton, Elias Koteas, Molly Hagan
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Genre:
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