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I am so excited, because Cindy Mancini sent me the entire series of Double Trouble on DVD. It is the one show I have been dying to see since the 80s. I watched four episodes last night. It was better than I even remembered. They had the coolest clothes, and they taught aerobics at their Dad's gym. Their Dad is the guy who played "Dutch" on Soap. He is dating Patricia Richardson (from Home Improvements) in Double Trouble.
In the second episode, Cameron Dye- from Valley Girl- was in that episode-it was very cool to see him-and with blonde hair-he looked totally different.
The girls are in high school, and this is something major that I noticed in this show, and then I started thinking about other shows.
There use to be this huge emphasis on school/education in the TV shows of the 80s that involved teenagers...like in this one Allison is the smart one, and she's always studying and working on school projects, and worrying about getting good grades and what college to go to.
That was in just about every show involving teens back in the 80s and even the 70s. The Bionic Woman was a teacher for her regular job, so was Isis-so was The Greatest American Hero-and alot of the TV shows centered around going to school. Like ..Facts of Life and Square Pegs. I started thinking about that, and about what is actually on TV now that teenagers watch...I don't know of 1 actual show...but the stuff I see teenagers on now- even on MTV's "My Sweet Sixteen"- the basis of any of it...is greed and self centered-ness, and being a spoiled rotten brat, most of the kids don't have a brain in their head...kids today are flunking out of school more than ever...it really is sad how stupid people have become. It seems like everything is centered around violence and sex- and not about bettering yourself through education, and belonging to clubs and volunteering.
I can't understand why more people aren't picking up on it. I think about what are people doing every day ....I know there are kids out there that still work hard at school and will go on to become productive adults....but I see a bigger trend of people who don't have any ambition at all to do anything with their life, and that is scary. Every time I ever talked to my son's best friend, he was flunking out of every subject, and he wasn't a stupid person-he just never paid attention to anything.
I have seen alot of older teenagers that have no care at all about school, and they just are putting in time- and I think...for what- your going to come out of there and not be able to support yourself.
It really is a scary situation...because all of it is connected.
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You know what else is weird, is how many "School" related movies there were in the 80s:
Class Oxford Blues Fast Times at Ridgemont High Private School Ski School Police Academy Revenge of the Nerds Back to School Summer School Ferris Bueller
That's just a few-I am sure I could think up more....do you see that now ?? In titles of movies?
I think that is a subliminal message that was being promoted in the 80s....they emphasised school all over the place, and made a ton of college related movies.
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Those movies were probably (and this is just a random guess) a successful effort by the movie companies to appeal to those of high school/college age at that time rather than subliminal messaging..... Posts: 3845 | From: Norf Karolina | Registered: Dec 2004 | Site Updates: 0
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School today is way different than 20 years ago. The colleges will pretty much accept anyone who has a beating heart/pulse. So these kids don't have to worry. What ****es me off is the stupidity of parents. At our local high school, a few parents got into an uproar because they felt that their daughters did not get enough playing time last season on the volleyball team. The coach has led them in the past to runner-up in the state championships. But now it's come down to "my little Suzie didn't get enough play time" or "my little Barbie got yelled at by the coach for being late for practice or not showing up numerous times." I personally do not know the coach, but it is a pity that the senior girls are being penalized, when they could have been up for scholarships to college. The coach is now on suspension, so since there is no coach,the team is not allowed to travel to any tournaments, where scouts could be looking to recruit. What a shame. I think a lot of parents need to realize that their kids are either 1. spoiled brats who need to learn to respect their elders or 2. Not a top notch player; so is it equal time for each kid, or a winning team? I think they need to learn sportsmanship. Sore losers.
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I agree with ya on the stupid parents pitt. I help coach a little league football team as a yearly favor for a friend of mine. The parents act like bigger brats than the kids. They've actually had to throw a couple out of games here. And let's face it folks everybody wants to see their kids do good but not everybody has an all-star on their hands. Some parents refuse to realize that. I never personally tell them that but it's sad when a lot of them actually think their kid's gonna be in the NFL someday. Let the kids actually enjoy themselves rather than harp on them for missing a pass or block or whatever.......
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Yeah...I know they were appealing to the teenage group of kids...
The Breakfast Club, Sixteen Candles, Lucas, The Goonies- all school related--even Cutting Class was just mentioned....
Now, look at the titles of new movies...there is a negative word in alot of them...
The Uninvited He's NOT that in to you Shoot Em Up Kill Bill Shooter Gun My Life in Ruins The Grudge 12 ANGRY men BURN after Reading Underworld Hostile Hellboy Killshot Outlander Donkey Punch (what the heck is that) Notorious Bride WARS The UNborn Defiance Slumdog Millionaire (that even has a negative title)
Those are movies that are playing right now, or a few I just could think up....
There is a negative word in every title...or implied violence.
Doesn't anyone else see this as a problem??
Where is Love, or something good in the title....
like:
Loverboy Date with an Angel Oh God Honeysuckle Rose (that even sounds nice) Bed of Roses
even movies like An Officer and a Gentle Men and Top Gun were about bettering yourself, and being a better person, and setting goals for yourself.
What movies are really geared towards Teens today??
I just listed a ton of them that were Teen related in the 80s....that had to do with School, and even TV was like that...Little House on the Prairie was based around a school. Where do kids see that now? They don't have a clue.
Even License to Drive- was showing the importance of studying and passing the driver's test.
Look at the importance of school in "My Tutor"-hahaha....(that is a joke-incase anyone didn't get it)....
But still school was everywhere in the 80s.
Now, it has been replaced.
Someone please just name me 1 TV show or movie that has to do with high school/college??
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License to Drive portrayed underage drinking. Revenge of the Nerds portrayed individuals smoking pot, Ferris Bueller made it seem ok to skip school while lying about illness. What's your point? Those are certainly issues in movies that made it seem ok/cool to break the law. I like all the mentioned movies but you certainly cannot look at them with tunnel vision making out like they portray everything in a positive light.....
Movies to do with high school/college
American Pie American Pie 2 American Wedding Scream Scream 2 Superbad High School Musical High School Musical 2 High School Musical 3 Orange County The Skulls Urban Legend
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No...I am not saying that they were really educational....but there is the word SCHOOL in the title- which has an implied meaning to it...yeah I know they drank beer and there was tons of sex and all that stuff....but it wasn't violence-and negativity.
There is something else going on today in the world...it's this constant negative attitude about everything.
I am not saying that Ferris Bueller was right for skipping school, or you should drive without a license....
I am saying that SCHOOL was a part of the movie...the movie revolved around some sort of educational system....
you don't see that today....where is it?
Even the TV show FAME was about a dance school....Flashdance was about getting in to a dance school.
Yeah...every movie has some sort of sex, drugs, alcohol....but the over all messages weren't about shooting people in the head.
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You never mentioned it needing to have the word school in it when you said to name. Another case of the rules being changed when proven wrong. Not all movies today are about shooting people in the head. How can it be said there's constant negativity today when certain individuals always make negative comments about 90% of new/modern everything? Isn't that promoting negativity?
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They might have been based around school-I am not saying they have to have the word school in the title- you totally messed my words all around...I am saying that the titles had a positive sound to it...the new movies have NEGATIVE words in them.
I have said it before...and I'll say it for the gazillionith time----saying I don't like negative stuff and violence does not make me negative it makes me positive, because I don't want around that garbage.
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But the way the argument is presented it seems like it's bein said that everything new/modern is bad garbage when plenty of 80s movies loved by certain people contain the same things. How can it be ok for one decade but not ok for another? Isn't that being hypocritical? There's nothing negative in the titles I mentioned.......
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As for good school shows/movies past and current, i will go to bat for Kids of Degrassi, Degrassi High and the current Degrassi:The next generation. Always a good mix relevant issues that wasn't afraid to not candy coat everything.
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quote:Originally posted by MotleyRulz: Movies to do with high school/college
American Pie American Pie 2 American Wedding Scream Scream 2 Superbad High School Musical High School Musical 2 High School Musical 3 Orange County The Skulls Urban Legend
Don't forget about Road Trip!
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I can kinda see what you mean Isis. And sometimes I share the same grim outlook on current times, as opposed to the happy times of yesteryear. BUT, then I remind myself that my parents, young in the 60's, the love generation, couldn't understand my love of Rambo,Jason Voorhees,Freddy,Terminator, Aliens and all the stuff I enjoyed in the 80's. It is a generational thing. My grandparents saw the love/hippie movement as something negative as well. And im sure, that my great grandparents frowned on my grandparents love of jazz or whatever.... it will always be like that!
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Looking at the directory of movies from this site here's a list of 80s movies with negative titles
100 ways to Murder Your Wife 8 Million Ways to Die A Nightmare on Elm Street 1 & 2 A View to a Kill Bad Boys Bad Taste Best Little Wh0rehouse in Texas Better Off Dead Big Trouble in Little China Bloodsport Breaking All The Rules Casualties of War Chopping Mall City of the Living Dead City On Fire Day Of The Dead Dead Heat Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid Dead pool Dead Zone Death Wish 2,3 & 4 Die Hard Ding Dong You're Dead Dirty Rotten Scoundrels Evil Dead 1 & 2 Fatal Attraction Fear City First Blood
notice I'm still only in the F's and left out a few I could have added. So I guess I don't follow your argument.
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LOL there was no balance to 80s movies and there are many many movies being made these days. If you think about it a lot of 80s movies have a lot in common with today's movies. Oh so now the stipulations are they have to come out within a week at the same time? The list you made has various movies that all came out at different times. So basically since you never responded, I'm assuming violence and gore in movies back in the 80s was ok but it's bad and wrong to do it now? Still sounds pretty hypocritical as you yourself grew up on a lot of similar horror techniques used in many of today's horror movies. And just because it's February doesn't mean it's snowing everywhere. That one made me laugh the hardest......
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I looked up the location of where it was filmed. It was filmed in Kittaning, where I thought it was... based on the fact that I saw Kittaning written on the back of the ambulance- which was horribly edited...
Even if PA had a mild winter- there aren't leaves on ANY trees here...except pine trees, and people don't put potted flowered plants out on their front porches-SO unless they were having the movie set in the south or out in Arizona....which I don't know how many coal mines there are in Arizona....but anyway.. they do not have maple trees in Arizona.
I am glad your laughing at the fact that I picked up on a major GOOF in the movie- that you obviously weren't even paying close enough attention to anything...to realize how stupid it looked to have leaves on the trees in February.
So guess what.....I am the one laughing!
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quote:Originally posted by 80'sRocked: </font><blockquote><font size="1" face=""Century Gothic", Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face=""Century Gothic", Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by MotleyRulz: Movies to do with high school/college
American Pie American Pie 2 American Wedding Scream Scream 2 Superbad High School Musical High School Musical 2 High School Musical 3 Orange County The Skulls Urban Legend </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face=""Century Gothic", Verdana, Arial">Don't forget about Road Trip!
If you're gonna include Road Trip you gotta include Euro Trip.
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Jay Lee- I think she's referring to the whole subject of this thread.
Which they never understand anything I say anyway.
My whole point about Double Trouble and the whole emphasis on school...is not wether or not the 80s had other violent movie titles- which I could list a billion of them too....it is that there was an emphasis on doing movies geared towards teens that revolved around school, and that there were a ton of TV shows that centered around school. You don't see that anywhere now.
I watched another preview yesterday for a movie called : Crank 2-High Voltage. I thought I was going to leave the movie theater just on that preview , because it was so nasty and gross, and just a giant mess...and I thought ...geez, if this is the kind of movie that they preview at the one I am at, then I am in for it (which I was )...but this preview for this Crank 2- this is EXACTLY the KIND of movie I am talking about-in comparison to stuff from the 80s....even though the 80s had violence....it wasn't this EXTREME....go watch a trailer for this movie, and then maybe you'll finally get what I mean.
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Actually I'm still laughing I won $50 betting there would be complaints about the new My Bloody Valentine movie. So thanks and keep up the good work! Should I send you half of it? Crank 2 is right up there with the likes of any violent, bloody movie of the 70s or 8os for that matter. Why has the question never been answered about condoning violence and gore in movies past but yet anything current is automatically unwatchable and shouldn't be released? Waits patiently for an answer without hopefully no posts that go off the subject again while dodging the question.......
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