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My son is dying to go see it.

I think these new Batman movies are very disturbing to look at.

I wasn't around here at the time of Heath Ledger's death...what did everyone think of that?

I heard a stunt person got ran over and was killed by the Batmobile making this movie, so they say it's cursed.

It's sad about Heath ...did they ever determine if his death was accidental or intentional?

Someone I know ...ended up in the ER tonight...he's only 19 years old....he almost over dosed...and I can't understand it at all. My mom spent the night of her birthday in the ER with him...his mom is my mom's best friend. He was 10 minutes away from death.


Just 2 months ago a young boy that this boy knew.. died of an over dose too. I don't understand what kids are thinking any more...with taking drugs like they do...they think they won't die.....or don't they even care?

I never knew anyone to do drugs...it was never around in the group of kids I hung out with. Yet now it seems so many kids are hooked on taking prescription medication. I don't understand what they get out of taking medication. I can't even stand to take Tylenol.

It is such a serious issue going around with really young kids. Kids that are 12 and 13 are taking prescription drugs already.

They named off all the drugs in Heath Ledger's system....it's terrible that it happens so often, and yet people don't think it will happen to them.

I keep seeing the previews of the movie, and knowning that he is dead and the way they portray The Joker...it really is going to be hard for me to attempt to see it.

I have never liked anyone that has ever played Batman in any of the movies, not even the 80's movies. I have never thought that they ever cast a good Batman yet.

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The newer Batman movies are truer to the original Batman concept. They were always on the darker side.

Heath Ledger's death was ruled an accidental overdose of perscription drugs which I believe he had perscriptions for all of them.

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At least the trailers are amazing so i believe
that this movie will be really good.

ISIS, what do you think, who would be the best Batman?
Just curious...

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quote:
Originally posted by ISIS:
I have never liked anyone that has ever played Batman in any of the movies, not even the 80's movies. I have never thought that they ever cast a good Batman yet.

Oh, I think Michael Keaton was just perfect in the role [Smile]
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The drug problem has been around for years with kids nothing new there either. That being said, I think Christian Bale is the best Batman after only one movie followed by Keaton. The role just didn't suit Kilmer or Clooney. Sam's right the new movies are truer to the original concept. No Robin going Holy Gees everytime something happens, no pink tights,no one dancing to 80s music, no cheesy gray pajama outfits,etc. The characters were dark so therefore the movie is gonna be dark. This will be the summer movie to see. It'll be interesting enough to see Ledger's performance as it has been hyped to the max. I've even heard rumors of him possibly getting an Oscar nomination.......

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Personally I love these new Batman movies. Just because they are darker and truer to the original comics. Before it wasn’t much more than a guy in a funny costume. Now Batman is scarier … ghostlike almost. I think Christian Bale does a wonderful job in portraying the Dark Knight.
And from what I can tell from the pictures I already saw.. this is by far the best Joker I have ever seen.

I honestly can’t wait to see it!

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I do get that it is more close to the comics, but everything else that is out now is dark too.

I loved the Batman TV show when I was a kid, but it is a little too cartoonish for me to sit through now.

I just don't know why there isn't a middle ground anywhere.

I don't think Maggie Gyllenhal or Katie Holmes look like leading "women", to me they still like they are about 15-16 years old.

That's another thing about today's stuff...the women who are actors today look like little girls...maybe it's because I am older now...but I think about the age they are in comparison to Farrah Fawcett, Jacklyn Smith, Cheryl Ladd and Lynda Carter...and those women looked like women and they were in their late 20's when they were doing their shows.

I never could picture Michael Keaton as anything but Mr. Mom, and him doing comedies...so I never could picture him as Batman...he didn't even have the body for being Batman.

Christian Bale has the body and he has the personality...I don't find him attractive looking though.

Someone that I think might be good at it, is an actor off the soap-General Hospital.

Maurice Bernard. I think he has the look for it.

Check out his website:

http://www.mauricebenard.tv/welcome.html

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Let us not forget Kevin Conroy's great turn as the Caped Crusader on The Animated Series, which largely hit the right tone for the character (as well did Mark Hammill's Joker, which for many will always be the definitive one).

It's perhaps a testament to Batman's pure power as a character that he can exist in both dark and light worlds as we've seen over the years. Each series works in the universe it presents itself in nicely. Apart from George Clooney's bored "can I get back to the ER now?" turn, everyone to date has been at the very least passable, with Keaton's probably the second best lived action take. I think Bob Kane would like the current series; as had been noted, it is along the lines of his and Bill Finger's initial concept (in his first year of existence Batman offed thugs left and right until DC decided this wouldn't be a good way to go with a hot property). It's a benefit certainly to know exactly how he gets his equipment and a bit more of his psyche, and I too am ready for the next one.

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Ya know when I watched Clooney play Batman I got the same impression. The "I don't really wanna be hear how much longer does this last" feeling. I personally don't care about how attractive someone looks if they can play the role let 'em. That's a major problem: someone having to be considered attractive before they are considered to be a talented actor/actress......
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michael keaton was the best batman ever. and christian bale is doing a great job as well.

isis - i actually agree with you, katie holmes just didn't cut it for me. i can't give an opinion on maggie, because i have to see the movie first.
i cannot wait for this movie. tickets have already sold out for the midnight showing on opening day...they've even added 3am screenings. it's going to be huge.

did anyone else collect any joker figures from the dark knight? a new one is being released july 9th. they resemble heath ledger so much that they are going for $90.00 or so.. and will be worth more once the movie is released (and harder to get).

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I have seen Maggie in other stuff...and she just was very plain. I think when you have a huge movie and your a superhero...you should be good looking...unless your the villian...or unless you go the other way with Batman...and he's meant to be dark and creepy...then that's different...but I always thought they wanted him to be this billionaire, playboy- Bruce Wayne...who gets all the girls....so you have to be attractive to be doing that unless your buying them with the billions...but I don't think Daniel Craig is even slightly attractive...(from the neck down he is)... I think he's very unattractive and doesn't do it for me in the slightest to be James Bond.

I honestly can't think of 1 man out there today that I have seen in anything...who I think is good looking....just guys on the soap General Hospital...I think it has the best looking men on TV on it-but I can't stand to watch it, because the plot is so stupid.

I remember watching tons of stuff and thinking the men looked really good. I am watching ChiPs and I think the guy who plays Baricza is cute...his name is Brody Greer....I wonder what he's doing now.

I just don't think people are that good looking any more.

I was looking at Lynda Carter's website:

http://www.wonderland-site.com/index2.htm

If you go on there and look at the magazine pictures...the covers from the 70's...that she was in...the people were gorgeous....I look at the magazines when I am standing in the grocery store check out and I don't see anyone that I think is as glamourous as what people were in the 70's and 80's.

The Superheroes that are out now....

Robert Downey Jr., Edward Norton and Tobey McGuire....if you do compare Christian Bale to any of them...then absolutely he wins....but ick..those guys aren't superhero material.

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Back in the 70's/80's I think Gregory Harrison would have made a good Batman.
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Too bad all Batmen couldn't look like Adam West. Guess he set the bar too high for all future super heros.
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quote:
Originally posted by SammyHain 44DDD-26-36:
Too bad all Batmen couldn't look like Adam West. Guess he set the bar too high for all future super heros.

You betcha. Here's a picture to prove it.

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I'm sorry...what does being good looking have to do with being a good actor or actress? My answer: NOTHING. I don't watch movies because the guys in the movie are cute. I watch them because, well, it's something I'm interested in.

As for the Batman movies, I saw the first couple...I'm not sure if I saw the George Clooney one or not...they were pretty good. I didn't see the one with Christian Bale, but I would like to see the Dark Knight just to see if Heath Ledger really did give an awesome performance.

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People aren't that good looking anymore? Now I've heard it all LOL. Alot of celebs prefer shambles over glam these days it's the in thing I guess you'd call it. Just because someone doesn't dress the part doesn't mean they aren't rich. Adam West should bow to the west and pray daily to Seth McFarlane for saving his lack of a career.....
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I never said once that I thought Adam West was good looking, or a good actor...and I have met him, and he's extremely rude, and personally I have nothing good to say about him.

I also never said a person has to be good looking to be an actor.

I said that if your playing the lead role in a movie and your the superhero you should be good looking .....

I never said that people who don't dress nice...don't have money either...

I think when your are casting a movie for any role...the person who gets the part has to have the physical charastics of the role they are playing....that's all I am talking about...and I can't honestly think of 1 guy that I'd really cast as Batman who is an actor from today. If we went back in time, I could name some...but nobody current appeals to me at all.

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4 hours and 13 minutes until The Dark Knight but whose counting??!
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My son....he wants to see it on opening night...but I think he's going to have to settle for the Sunday matinee.
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We just got back from seeing this and I have 2 words to describe it: blown away! Bale was spot on but Ledger's Joker character definitely stole the show IMO. You can tell he really got into the character even the manneurisms. I watched Ledger's unbelievable performance in both amazement and sadness knowing that this was his last role. I think for me his performance was even more eery knowing that he's gone at such a young age and had so much more to give. Aaron Eckhart was awesome as Harvey Dent/Two Face as well. It was very, very dark as many predicted but guess what so was the comics. If Ledger doesn't get an Oscar nod, well quite frankly the Academy's crazy. It was the first movie I've personally saw in a long time that actually lived up to the hype. I'd have to give it a 9 out of 10.......

P.S. Those who go see it watch carefully they drop a couple hints about who the next villian may be.......

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wow.
i just read on imdb that it's currently ranked #4 on the top 250 movies of all time, with a rating of 9.7 out of 10.

of course that is gonna change but how intersting!

i am going to see tomorrow morning with a group of people - can't wait.

i see that it's 2 1/2 hours... wow. hope my butt doesn't get flat! [Big Grin]

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Motley,

Thanks for the SITREP... Gotta' check it out... [Smile]

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I just saw it. It definately had good special effects...but that was it. Heath absolutely acted the part of a crazy person. But, the whole movie was so hard to follow...and everyone was back stabbing each other. It was so hard to know who was a good guy and who was a bad guy.

I left the movies with a terrible feeling after seeing it.

First of all there are some 80's connections...

When anyone else sees it...see if they do the JCPenney's commercial that they remake The Breakfast Club.....they did that terribly. Those kids in the new commercial weren't even close to being like the originals.

Anthony Michael Hall is in the Dark Knight-he plays the news anchor. He is looking really old, he is so far gone from being Farmer Ted...it's like he's not even the same person any more. Eric Roberts is in this movie too-which I didn't know that either....I use to like him as an actor-he was in the movie Raggedy Man-and I loved that movie.

I don't know about Heath getting an Academy Award...I honestly can see where he'd be nominated...but if that is Academy Award winning stuff...then that's messed up.

There was a kid at this movie who was about 6 years old...this movie was one killing scene after another from the first 2 minutes in to it, to the very end. And there is a scene where someone has a gun to a kid's head...and it has one of the grossest scenes in a movie that I have ever seen, and it will give me nightmares-I am sure.

The first Batman with Christian Bale is on regular TV right now...I kind of liked it. When I saw it in the movies I liked it alot. It doesn't have that background music playing over and over and over like this one and I like the scene where all the bats gathered around him, I thought that was neat.

The theater was packed with people...and I listened to see what everyone was saying about it on the way out...and nobody was talking.

1 thing...it was WAY to long...I kept thinking...when is this ever going to end. My leg fell asleep. I was really bored in 2 places in the movie.

I thought at first I was going to hate it...then I thought I was going to give it a chance...I even thought I was starting to feel sorry for The Joker-his lines were exactly- the same as Jack Nicholson's...are those lines from right out of the comics?

Then when he was telling people why he looked the way he did...he gave 2 different stories about that...are we suppose to believe either one of them?

This movie made 155 millon in 2 days, and is breaking records.

What else is out now to go see?


I didn't get one positive feel for any of it...and I didn't understand at all why they made Batman seem like he was a bad guy.

They previewed some movie called The Watchmen that looked horrible, and then they previewed a Rated R movie at a PG-13 movie...I don't understand that one at all?

I don't care if everyone else likes it. Unless something major comes out that looks incredible...I am sick of going to the movies.

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Ok,

Here goes.

Isis said...


"It definately had good special effects...but that was it."

So there was NOTHING else good about it?

"But, the whole movie was so hard to follow...and everyone was back stabbing each other. It was so hard to know who was a good guy and who was a bad guy."

Maybe you'd like a programme with printed instructions...pay attention to what's going on then!

"When anyone else sees it...see if they do the JCPenney's commercial that they remake The Breakfast Club.....they did that terribly. Those kids in the new commercial weren't even close to being like the originals."

What has this got to do with the movie?

"Anthony Michael Hall is in the Dark Knight-he plays the news anchor. He is looking really old, he is so far gone from being Farmer Ted...it's like he's not even the same person any more. Eric Roberts is in this movie too-which I didn't know that either....I use to like him as an actor-he was in the movie Raggedy Man-and I loved that movie."

Breaking news. Actors do get old. Who knew?

"I don't know about Heath getting an Academy Award...I honestly can see where he'd be nominated...but if that is Academy Award winning stuff...then that's messed up."

Pulling out a career best performance when the public initially condemned the choice. You're right all Oscars should continue to go to Tom Hanks.

"This movie was one killing scene after another from the first 2 minutes in to it, to the very end. And there is a scene where someone has a gun to a kid's head...and it has one of the grossest scenes in a movie that I have ever seen, and it will give me nightmares-I am sure."

Don't you rate April Fool's Day as one of your favourite movies?


"The theater was packed with people...and I listened to see what everyone was saying about it on the way out...and nobody was talking."

And this means its a bad film why?

"1 thing...it was WAY to long...I kept thinking...when is this ever going to end. My leg fell asleep. I was really bored in 2 places in the movie."

You'd soon complain if you were spending your money on 80 minute movies that were lacking in plot and substance.


"This movie made 155 millon in 2 days, and is breaking records."

Obviously not everyone hates it.

"What else is out now to go see?"

I don't know. Look it up on a movie site. Apparently new movies come out all the time...


"They previewed some movie called The Watchmen that looked horrible"

Universally regarded as the greatest comic book ever made.

"I am sick of going to the movies"

STOP GOING THEN

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I am stopping....

Batman did me totally in on new movies.

The Breakfast Club commercial was playing at the Preview for Batman...and to me that just shows the lack of new movies coming...when they start doing commercials and ads for the Navy, then you know nothing good is being made.

April Fool's Day was a horror movie...and even though that's what it was...you never actually saw 1 person being killed in the movie-otherwise the movie wouldn't have been what it was.

This movie is marketed towards kids...there's kid's cereals and all kinds of kids merchandise...and because it is a "Superhero" movie-kids are going to go. It should have been Rated R.

I was trying to pay attention to the story...I figured good vs. evil.. it shouldn't be hard to follow...but the part with Harvey Dent becoming two-face....I couldn't really understand what made him evil....I know what he says did...but they were trying to save him....so what does he do...he goes nuts...I actually liked his character the best out of everyone in the movie....until the end...and then they made him so graphically disfigured that it was so gross to look at him...do you really think that kind of stuff wouldn't scare the heck out of little kids?

The Joker was so scary....I actually felt sorry for him...I thought he seems like someone who had an awful childhood and never had any friends, and was just looking for attention...and for someone to notice him....but he was a murdering maniac.

The kind of violence in this movie isn't just someone getting punched...they are showing people being blown to pieces (literally)...burned all over their bodies, shot for no reason- they showed a man punch a woman right in the face....they had a gun in a kids face...they killed innocent people and showed that happening on video.

In the beginning crime was just out of control...and it seemed like there was no where near as many good people as there were bad...and it seemed like alot of the people you thought were good- weren't...and it just seemed like there was no hope for Gotham City...that the whole place would be better if they just blew it all up and started over again....and the more it went on...the worse it got...and I still do not understand why the people in the city...wanted Batman to turn himself in...and why they thought he was a bad man...when he was the only thing out there protecting them.

The Watchmen preview....there was a giant naked blue man and a girl that had what looked like duct tape covering her body...and it looked all computer generated...which I think the people were....I couldn't tell from that preview what was going on...because it was a big mess.

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