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Well I never thought the acting in Private School was that bad, plus it wasn't a dramatic thriller, it was what it was. Cellular was suppose to be drama and thrilling, and it was plain stupid. I mean why there was even an old telephone in the attic that was actually hooked to a phone line, is a good question, the bad guy comes in and smashes it with a baseball bat and then Kim Basinger puts it back together again (she just happens to be a science teacher), she manages to get this total idiot on the phone, and if he looses the connection with her, she won't ever be able to get him back on the line, she says she was kidnapped, but all she gives him is her name and town she lives in, and says go to the police, and he does, but all these stupid things happen that keep him from getting her "real" help, and it so unbelievable, and she doesn't tell him anything that maybe could be of any use, and it just was stupid, she did a horrible acting job, and I hate how they portray the general public, everyone in every store is rude, everyone is cutting everyone off in traffic, everyone carries a gun around in the glove compartment, everyone talks non stop in public on the cell phone, yeah I mean I guess it is right on the money with how life is, but that is the part that makes me sick. And Chris Fulmer said it right, about how they portray families, the Dad always is the bad guy. I do keep trying to give new movies a shot, and like Cindymancini said, if you do end up liking one, you might have made it through it, but is it one you'll watch over and over and over. The movies I own-which are close to 600-700 I have watched them all repeatedly, and there are lots I am trying to get still. I have not seen Napoleon Dynamite yet...I haven't heard anyone say they didn't like it, but it doesn't seem to be my kind of thing anyway. I have watched a couple movies that I didn't think I'd like but ended up thinking were ok, and one was Cold Mountain and one was Open Range.
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Part of what Isis wrote:
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...I hate how they portray the general public, everyone in every store is rude, everyone is cutting everyone off in traffic, everyone carries a gun around in the glove compartment, everyone talks non stop in public on the cell phone, yeah I mean I guess it is right on the money with how life is, but that is the part that makes me sick.
Apparently, you have never visited L.A.!! [Smile]

And you probably don't want to!

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quote:
Originally posted by Ronnie:
oh lord, here we go.

isis, stop and think. most 80s movies had bad acting, cheesy storylines, and some of the most RETARDED, IDIOTIC, characters ever. but we all seemed to like it anyway.
why is it, you cannot find something worth your while in today's society.
i have never seen cellular, so i cannot comment on it, but there seems to be a ton of movies (non 80s) that you despise and really take too literally. how can you have that kind of thinking, coming from someone who likes movies like 'private school'...now that's major corniness, bad acting, with an intelligent plot of a bunch of horny teenagers. [Roll Eyes] but it's great comedy, and i happen to love it too.

lighten up.


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I would agree with this, the trouble with modern cinema is it is dominated by Hollywood. European & Asian cinema has a lot to offer if you are prepaired to do a a little digging.

If horror is your bag then you can't go wrong with Dark Water, Ringu series, The Grudge etc, La Haine is great French film, then you have films like Mullholland Drive, Pi, Twelve Monkeys, Fear & Loathing In Las Vegas, LA Confidential, Big Lobowski, Fargo etc.

If you seek you shall find.

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The debate goes on and on. Of course, we are all here because we love the 80's, but it seems those of us that rate the 80's movies over more recent movies are in the minority...

I have recently seen and enjoyed the following (to name but a few):

Eternal Sunshine of The Spotless Mind
Closer
Shaun Of The Dead
Saw
The Bourne Supremacy
The Butterfly Effect

**** it! Just check out the following list and you'll note movie from all genres and time periods:

Noms' DVD aficianado list

Some you'll agree are classics and some, I know are personal faves that most people wouldn't touch. Whatever, its the variety that I enjoy plus the fact that I don't limit myself to a particular time period...


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All I'm gonna say anymore about this subject, is...if I want to discuss more recent movies, the 90's Rewind board is the place I go.

For me, personally, any discussion of 70's movies (and movies from earlier decades) should go to the 70's Rewind.

80's movies go here, on the 80's Rewind.

90's and 2k movies go on the 90's Rewind.

It's just the way I prefer, and I guess it respects the "code" of distinguishing the eras and the decades in the interest of staying on the topic matter.

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But Steven if someone says 80's films are better than X decade we have a right to disagree and give reasons why.

The 80's hold a special place for me, but movie wise 1945 - 1965 is the golden era for me, Film Noir, French New Wave, British New Wave, classic Hitch**** etc etc. But I was a kid in the 80's so films even of dubious quality still hold fond memories.

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When will we see a 00's rewind forum then, hmmm???


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quote:
Originally posted by StevenHW:
All I'm gonna say anymore about this subject, is...if I want to discuss more recent movies, the 90's Rewind board is the place I go.

For me, personally, any discussion of 70's movies (and movies from earlier decades) should go to the 70's Rewind.

80's movies go here, on the 80's Rewind.

90's and 2k movies go on the 90's Rewind.

It's just the way I prefer, and I guess it respects the "code" of distinguishing the eras and the decades in the interest of staying on the topic matter.

quit trying to steal rocksteady's gimmick.
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Right, I try and keep movies all seperated in to their little categories of decades on the Rewind. But, let me say...isn't a message board what you make it about? I know it is basically about the 80's, and the 80's music and movies, but when you watch a movie now in 2005-doesn't that actually relate back to where we have come in the movie industry? I personally would go back in time before going forward( watching movies). I have given many many new movies a shot, and all it does to me is enforce the fact that the lifestyle in the 80's, where you see kids riding their BMX bikes, or breakdancing on the streets, or playing in groups, that is all something you don't see now, because it isn't the way the world is any more, and I liked the world in the 80's. To me, you had to be old enough in the 80's to understand what I am talking about, or you'll never get it.

Steven your right I have never been to LA, and I have no desire to, because living in rural Amish country people are rude enough, I'd have to get on some anti depressant like half the rest of the world, to deal with a city, cause it would blow my mind. I have been in New York, and in Philadelphia, and Washington DC, and Pittsburgh, and Orlando,FLA & Richmond, VA and other major cities and even though there are benefits to having more to do, I can't go the crime, and all the "bad" stuff that goes along with cities. It is bad enough in the country. No place is safe anymore.

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Funny Cheaper By the Dozen should get thrown in here . . .

My mom really likes Steve Martin, so she recorded Three Amigos (Funny, funny movie) and went to the video store. Most of his better-known movies were rented out, so she got: My Blue Heaven, The Lonely Guy, and Parenthood.

Parenthood was basically Cheaper By the Dozen, although I thought it was better. It just was really, really long, and all the families had problems. Steve Martin? Bad guy father. Punk kids? You got it. Keanu Reeves has a small role? Dude! Dianne Wiest? Yay! Little kids running into things? Classic gag will never die. Rick Moranis? Aw, man, another bad guy father. The brother? Bad father. Wiest's kids? Father left 'em. The grandpa? Bad father of the bad fathers. EVERY character has some small deep meaning to 'em? Yes, yes, yes.

Why did I list these things? I don't know. I thought it was a good movie, although not really the genre I'm into.

The Lonely Guy had a unique brand of humor that made it funny. His conversations with his friend were priceless.

Anyway, back on track here.

Not ALL new movies are horrible--You just think they are. [Razz] If you want a good scary movie, White Noise was good. It did have the jump out of nowhere scare tactic, but it had a slightly more realistic plotline considering people can hear unknown voices under certain circumstances. Plus Michael Keaton, who did great. Rather sad movie, though. I never really got into serious, sad horror movies.

Pirates of the Caribbean was excellent, as well as Elf (I know, Isis, complain all you want.). If you haven't seen Galaxy Quest, you should give it a try. I thought it was a great parody of the Star Trek genre (or whatever you'd call it).

Or if you want a good TV show, Monk is highly-recommended. Or, if it's ever released on DVD, I'd recommend Big Wolf on Campus--Definitely rooted with Teen Wolf, and was wonderful for a kids' show.

Let's not forget the not-too-recent Adam Sandler comedies Happy Gilmore and Billy Madison. Or Chris Farley/David Spade's great comedies like Black Sheep and Tommy Boy. Chris Farley was also great in Almost Heroes (co-starring with Matthew Perry--They're basically on an expedition to beat Lewis and Clark and have misadventures on the way in the wild with their crew.).

Starsky and Hutch was a great comedy--Ben Stiller is a great comedian. Try Meet the Parents and the excellent sequel, Meet the Fockers (Barbra Streisand, go for it!). What about There's Something About Mary? I haven't actually seen it myself, but what I did see seemed to be a good comedy.

Not forgetting Shrek or Finding Nemo for those animation fans out there, which are good, (almost) clean fun movies.

For the Mike Myers fan, there are, of course, Austin Powers, and the funny romance So I Married An Axe Murderer (Either late 80's or early 90's).

Seth Green rocks, and so does Without a Paddle (Okay, so the whole plot was basically these guys running a pot farm chasing down the hapless heroes in the wild, but I liked it a lot.).

Jurassic Park? While heavy on the CGI, I love those movies, not to mention the 80's fan will love Jeff Goldlum (he isn't in the third one, but there is a possiblity that he'll be in the fourth one, which I'm looking forward to). It has action, strong relationships, and some science stuff for those brainiacs there who like the dinosaurs (Very realistic, and a lot of detail was put into them--Their nostrils moved, their pupils even had action.).

If you're looking for a good older horror movie, try Evil Dead--I don't know if you were the one who didn't see it, Isis, but it's a horror trilogy I really like. The first one began production in 1979, and the third one was released in 1993, so you can say it's a trilogy of three generations. [Wink]

Ace Ventura is great stupid comedy. The Wedding Singer is a good romance. The Craft is good supernatural stuff. Drop Dead Fred? 90's. A Nightmare Before Christmas! There's a new movie by Tim Burton coming out called "The Corpse Bride" in the same style, which sounds like it'll be a good success come Halloween. The Crow was pretty dark and not really my style, but friends of mine who saw it and like that certain kind of movie said they liked it.

I won't be the one to say that there isn't bad movies nowadays--I get tired of a lot of movies, more so from nowadays than from, say, twenty years ago. But look at this unnecessarily long list! There's plenty of good stuff out there just waiting for you!

Just don't rent Wicker Park or Gerry. [Wink]

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Ugh. Hated THE RING so much I rented RINGU...just to prove to myself it must have lost something in translation. Hated that too.
THE CURSE was one of the worst movies I saw last year. Wont bother renting its original.
Other Oriental snooze-fests: THE EYE, and ....oh...cant even remember the name of the one set in an all-girl school where a ghost travels the corridors.
I am so fed up I refuse to see any new pictures. I buy my old favorites on dvd and just watch those.

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quote:
Originally posted by mamamiasweetpeaches:
Ugh. Hated THE RING so much I rented RINGU...just to prove to myself it must have lost something in translation. Hated that too.
THE CURSE was one of the worst movies I saw last year. Wont bother renting its original.
Other Oriental snooze-fests: THE EYE, and ....oh...cant even remember the name of the one set in an all-girl school where a ghost travels the corridors.
I am so fed up I refuse to see any new pictures. I buy my old favorites on dvd and just watch those.

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
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"All new movies aren't bad...you just think they are."

Sounds like something Yogi Berra would say lol [Smile] . That's why I think they suck, because I think they do.

Thank Gosh, someone else didn't like the Ring. I was put to sleep by that.

Adam Sandler, his screaming act has never done anything for me. And you notice now that he's big, he hasn't done one Gilmore or Madison type movie.

Ace Ventura just drains you in 20 minutes. All that hyper-activity.

Interesting point about the Parenthood dads. Though I think Martin just thought he was a bad father cuz he couldn't corral that whining kid of his.

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'"All new movies aren't bad...you just think they are."

Sounds like something Yogi Berra would say lol'

Actually, it reminded me of a scene in the show Big Wolf on Campus where the main character is trying to make a new friend feel better . . .
"I'm such a loser!"
"No you're not. Everybody just thinks you are."

I was also put to sleep by The Ring. The sequel looks much better, but not so good that I'd go to see it. I liked the girl coming out of the TV, but other than that, meh.

As for Adam Sandler, you can only get away with acting like a kid so long before people want a new schtick. And what about The Waterboy? That was pretty big. Ah well. I like his style, but whatever floats your boat.

I'm guessing you're not a big fan of the hyper-active comedian genre, then. [Wink]

ALL the kids in Parenthood were whiny--And, well, the parents were, too. It was nice when Martin dressed up like a cowboy for his kid's party when there was a mix-up with the entertainment.

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I actually liked "The Ring." To each his own.
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I actually like some movies from the 90's, I have listed probably 30-40 of them on the 90's board but noone comments over there. It has just been in the last 5 years, that I have not seen a movie that I would go buy-because I wanted to watch it more than once. I have bought a few for my son-like I-Robot, and Spiderman, but for me-once was enough on any of those movies.

I actually liked Parenthood. But, no way am I watching the Cheaper by the Dozen movie.

I really liked both Father of the Bride movies- that house in it is one of my favorite all time movie houses.

But, see that's where movies get me too...just like Cellular, the houses look like they came off the page of a Decorating Magazine, and everyone is super rich. Even Daddy Day Care...they talk about not making the mortgage payment...but look at what they are driving and how their house is decorated, it is all about money. And, that isn't realistic. Like alot of the houses the kids lived in in the 80's, those are the kind of houses most people live in now even. The more they make it over the top, the more it doesn't feel real to me, and I just can't get in to it. Look at Elf- James Caan was loaded. I always liked Bridget Fonda's apartment in It could Happen to You.

I know "hate" is a strong word...I guess...but I really think the movies of today really stink. I use to be so excited every week to see what was playing at the movies, now there is nothing.

I would still love to go to the movies and be entertained. I am not a fan of dark, depressing stuff...like Mystic River, Bad Santa, and Monster, those aren't movies to watch over and over again and again, they don't do a thing for me, except make me feel awful.

Lupa-you have to see an original Starsky and Hutch episode, to see how they totally ruined that by making it a movie. My Dad bought it for us for Xmas, cause he knows we like the tv series, and didn't know about the movie, I would not watch it, because I don't want the memories of the show ruined for me, but my husband watched it, and he said he hated it, and was having a hard time getting through it too, and he usually will give new stuff a shot.

It is funny how my husband, and my mom, and different people in my family, who use to get on me about me watching older stuff over and over, now they have nothing to watch now too, and are complaining about it, and I at least have stuff to watch- [Razz] [Big Grin] [Razz]

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when i watched mystic river and monster, i didn't assume that these movies were going to entertain me, i knew that they were dark, depressing films. i liked those movies for the performances and other things as well. i check different things out in a film...the dialogue, the acting, the scenery, the soundtrack, the way the movie was shot, and more. and at the end, if it sucked, it sucked.
i don't just watch movies that came out in theaters, i watch straight to video stuff, or try to find stuff (even from the 60s) that i have never watched, and give those a shot too.

btw, i thought the ring was great.

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I actually liked Spider-man quite a bit, and it was directed by Sam Raimi, so in the sequel there was a Bruce Campbell cameo! Huzzah!

Like I said, I thought Parenthood was better than Cheaper By the Dozen. I know Cheaper was a remake, but it was still the same thing at Parenthood without all the charm to it.

What you need to do is watch a good, fun movie. [Wink] Seriously, go rent some Chris Farley or Adam Sandler stuff. You'll feel better.

Y'see, I don't think the Starsky and Hutch movie was really intended to be exactly like the show--More of a parody, if you will. Plus there were cameos by the REAL Starsky and Hutch, so even if the rest isn't good, you at least get that. But, you can't say they totally ruined the show if you haven't seen the movie for yourself. Because I don't believe you. [Razz]

OH! I just remembered a really recent one that I liked! Surviving Christmas. It was totally excellent and funny, and not a Christmas movie like Elf or Bad Santa. I recommend that you rent that one--It came to the stores pretty quickly. If nothing else, you at least get to see Catherine O'Hara (Maybe that's a bad thing--Bwaha!). It's a good Christmas movie.

And, for the record, the dad in Elf was SUPPOSED to be rich to show us how miserly he was--And that family and love is more important than a high-paying job!

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hey loopy lupa, i like the HUZZAH [Big Grin]


i think there are some good suggestions here. there are a lot of comedies out these days that are fun movies.

ELF is excellent. i still have to buy that one. after watching that movie, i feel good, because if anything, it made me smile.

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Ronnie-- Bwaha! I've heard so many weird variations of my name, I read "loopy lupa" as "poopy loopy." Huzzah is a fun word, though. [Big Grin]
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Thanks, Jabeen. Goofball comedies are great. Thinking is hard sometimes. [Big Grin]
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I thought the premise for The Ring was great, it just wasn't carried in the direction that would've got me.

I kinda like Wedding Singer and Waterboy, but they just couldn't sustain themselves. His earlier, threadbare stuff like Madison or Gilmore, ten minutes of that was enough.

Same with Ace Ventura, or Dumb and Dumber, some great moments, but it's too sporadic to make me wanna buy the dvd.

Saw a thing in an entertainment mag that the 80s are still the most lucrative in box office history when inflation is taken into account. There were dozens of 300 million dollar movies, when adjusted, would make reach a billion these days, which floored me. I hadn't been to a movie in so long, I was unaware that it's 9.75!!! for a non-matinee.

The 90s apparently only had half of the 80s $300 million+ total. They went on to say todays movies open huge, but drop off quicker than ever. Back in the 80s they opened modest and repeat business went on for months.

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quote:
Originally posted by mamamiasweetpeaches:
Ugh. Hated THE RING so much I rented RINGU...just to prove to myself it must have lost something in translation. Hated that too.
THE CURSE was one of the worst movies I saw last year. Wont bother renting its original.
Other Oriental snooze-fests: THE EYE, and ....oh...cant even remember the name of the one set in an all-girl school where a ghost travels the corridors.
I am so fed up I refuse to see any new pictures. I buy my old favorites on dvd and just watch those.

No new movies... so you won't ever see "Suicide Club"? or "Brother"? or "Battle Royale"? (1 & 2)
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Devolution here,

Battle Royale didn't do that much for me. I saw it, conceptually it was a good idea, but I guess it lost something in the build up.

I will say this much, because I haven't said anything yet. If I could walk away from a movie and not be disappointed that I rented it or spent money on it in the movies or even wasted 2 hours by watching it then I consider it a bonus. 80's movies are great, but I tend to agree with the rest of the people on here that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Going back and seeing something that you thought was great and it turns out to be terrible could take away from how cool some of these 80's movies were. I am not asking for movies to be as cool as Fast Times, as scary as Pet Semetary, or as hypnotic as the Empire Strikes Back. I just want to be entertained and not disappointed. The last movie that blew my mind was Terminator 2. I can't think of anything that great since then.

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I have a question for Isis.

Time and time again you complain when people start a thread that you know will court controversy and will get some form of debate.

So why is it then that time and time again you start a thread claiming how bad everything is today when you know it will court controversy and will get some form of debate???

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