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980 was a cusp era, the drastic 'me decade' of the 70's was on it's way out and in came the 'greed-decade'. Dinner Parties, wearing the right clothing, having the best appliances and NEVER appearing anything but content.
Ordinary People is a movie about appearances and feelings, and does much more in the process.
Conrad Jarret is the definition of angst -way before angst became a way of life. A good looking teen boy who is forced to face harsh truths before he is ready.
You see, a year before the story takes place, he once had a brother, 10 months his senior -Buck. Buck was everything to everyone, including to Conrad, a hero, a do-no wrong, perfect student and athelete. Now he is gone, in flashback you see his untimely demise, during a sailing accident, bad weather and a storm abruptly changed a family. Buck drowned because he let go of the boat, Conrad lived because he hung on.
Guilt stricken by this fact, Conrad tried to end his own life, via cutting his wrists. He failed, and the movie starts when he has returned from a hospital to begin living a life again.
I'll be honest. Some tragedy movies, it takes almost the whole movie for me to care about the main character. Ten minutes into this movie, I could honestly say, I was very glad Conrad Jarret failed in ending his life.
A sweet boy, with a wonderful sense of humor, desperate eyes seeing all around him and the delicate way he handles his friends and family as they tip toe around him, afraid he'll hurt himself or someone else.
As part of the agreement with his father, he starts seeing Dr. Berger, a rather eclectic man with his own methods, but who you can tell right away is the key to Conrad finding his raw emotions.
Conrad has healing to do, as do his parents, Calvin -a rags to riches lawyer with a heart of gold and Beth, his beautiful but terminally unhappy wife.
Calvin wants his son happy, not appearing happy, but BEING happy. He questions his own happiness as his son heals. And he discovers the healing process has ups and downs, there are set-backs and he begins to feel again, allowing himself to mourn his lost son, and have empathy for the son who survived.
Beth is the picture perfect mother, she plays golf with the right people -even if she isn't in the mood- just so she appears the model person she wishes to be seen as. She attends dinner parties, chides her husband if he does anything that may show the Jarret's are anything but deliriously happy people -despite their tragedies.
There is no concealing her contempt for Conrad, her own son. She is angry at him for attempting suicide. My opinion is because she lost one son to fate and cannot understand why her other son would dare take even more from her. Conrad is not Buck and Buck was her pet favorite. Conrad should have let go of the boat, not Buck -this is never said, mind you, but is very apparent. She gets angry at him for doing things like quitting the swim team without telling her and well, from what I can tell, she almost seems to resent him healing.
Into this story enters a pretty girl, Jeannine. She is also suffering from the appearance situation, and Conrad helps her with that by just being himself. Unlike the drooling, ass-grabbing buddies he knows, he treats her as a person and she begins to realize she is human and that is a good thing.
So much goes on and much of it is conveyed by actions rather than words. The icy treatment of Conrad by Beth cannot be described with proper justice -it's that masterful, the sweetness emoted by Calvin is genuine and Dr. Berger's raw approach to bring Conrad up into the world of the living again, is priceless, especially when dealing with setbacks like a former friend from Conrad's hospital killing herself and the very discovery of why Conrad is so angry at himself.
In the end, everyone makes discoveries and acceptances of who they are and where to go from here...
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This is supposed to be the happy family of Suburbia and between the accidental death and an attempted suicide, it is tainted.
These really are no Ordinary People, but the movie seems to be about how so they really want to be, although the message is, there is no such thing as Ordinary and life gives you plenty of twists and suprises to deal with.
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Redford won a Golden Globe and an Oscar for Best Director for the film. The film also won a Golden Globe for Best Motion Picture - Drama. Robert Redford, Ronald L. Schwary (unit production manager), Steve Perry (1st assistant director) & Yudi Bennett (2nd assistant director) all won the Directors Guild of America Award for the film for Outstanding Directorial Achievement. -Thanks to Stephanie
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Timothy Hutton won a Golden Globe for Best Motion Picture Actor in a Supporting Role and New Star of the Year in a Motion Picture - Male. Mary Tyler Moore won one for Best Motion Picture Actress - Drama.
The play that Donald Sutherland and Mary Tyler Moore watch is "Same Time Next Year", which was made into a movie starring Alan Alda and Ellen Burstyn. -Thanks to David Brown
The film has 2 taglines: 1.) "Some films you watch, others you feel." 2.)"Everything is in its proper place... Except the past."
This film is currently Robert Redford's only Oscar win (Best Director; Best Picture). Despite a number of critically acclaimed roles, the closest he has come to winning an Oscar for acting was a nomination for "The Sting" in 1974. -Thanks to James
Donald Sutherland was nominated for a Golden Globe for the film for Best Motion Picture Actor - Drama. So were Judd Hirsch for Best Motion Picture Actor in a Supporting Role & Alvin Sargent for Best Screenplay - Motion Picture.
Alvin Sargent won the Writers Guild of America Award for Best Drama Adapted from Another Medium. He also won an Oscar for Best Writing, Screenplay Based on Material from Another Medium.
Judd Hirsch was nominated for an Oscar for the film for Best Actor in a Supporting Role. So was Mary Tyler Moore for Best Actress in a Leading Role.
To date, Timothy Hutton is the youngest male actor to win an Academy Award and the youngest to win in the Supporting Actor category. He was 19 when he won for "Ordinary People". -Thanks to Shann Maddox
Adam Baldwin who played the bully 'Stillman' that picked on Conrad, played a very depressed, suicidal teen, Ricky Linderman, guilty over the death of his brother in the movie, "My Bodyguard". It was his first role that came out the same year, 1980. -Thanks to Ginger
Timothy Hutton's father, actor Jim Hutton, passed away prior to filming. Timothy Hutton said that he didn't use his mourning as a basis for Conrad's depression.
In a cruel irony, Mary Tyler-Moore's only child, Ritchie Moore, was killed in a tragic accident by a defective gun prior to making this film.
Elizabeth McGovern dated Sean Penn in the early '80s and at one point, they were even engaged! -Thanks to Stephanie
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| | | | The first draft of the script took a year and a half to write and the 2nd took another year because it was difficult to adapt a novel with so much dialogue and very few descriptions of characters & settings. -Thanks to Stephanie
Ordinary People was based on the novel of the same name, by Judith Guest.
Gene Hackman was originally cast to play Dr. Berger but couldn't follow through, he was replaced by Judd Hirsch who completed the filming of his scenes in 8 days so the film wouldn't interfere with the schedule of his show Taxi.
Elizabeth McGovern was a student at Julliard during filming. The school allowed her to do the film on the condition that she leave for Chicago each Friday night & return on Sunday, filming only on Saturdays. It was the first time Julliard had ever allowed a student to make a film during the school year!
What may be the biggest tragedy for the film's fans is that Robert Redford, reportedly, recorded an audio commentary for the film's initial DVD release in 2000. Mysteriously, Paramount didn't include it on the disc, and it was even absent on the 2006 reissue. -Thanks to ChrisKulik
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| | | Filmed in Lake Forest, Illinois. Opening scene begins in Choir with the traditional blue & gold colors of Lake Forest High School worn by cheerleaders in uniform. There must have been a game that day.... [Thanks to Betsey Clark]
Lake Forest amazingly still looks EXACTLY the same, even after nearly 25 years.
The interior of Lake Forest High School has been completely re-done as of the mid-1990's. However, the outside of the school remains the same. [Thanks to Alisa Steady and Angeli]
The golf course scenes were filmed at the Apple Valley Country Club in Apple Valley CA. [Thanks to Joanna Rodriguez]
My guess is Jarett's house is by the lake because also I can hear the lake in the background during the movie. The grandparent's house is located on Lake Road. Also the Murray's house, the Jarett's friends' home is located on Greenbay at the T intersection of Greenbay and woodland road. [Thanks to libby]
The primary family residence used in the film is located on Greenbay road. The architecture and the VERY noticeable gravel driveway is customary in the older parts of Lake Forest, in between downtown Market Square and the lake.
The first part of the movie shows the First Presbyterian Church on the corner of Deerpath and Sheridan. Also are shown some beach scenes. Since the time the movie was filmed there has been a very nice beach constructed where those plain docks are scene in the movie. Now there are wide brick paver pathways along the beach and a small yacht club where people can store and launch their sailboats. The large stately building shown several times throughout the movie is the Lake Forest High School. Many people who drive past it think it must be a private school, but it is indeed the public school. The swimming pool is located at Lake Forest College. IT still looks EXACTLY the same today. Same yellow paint and plain brick walls.
The scene where Conrad is skipping through town shows Triangle Park, with the famous copper deer that stands stately overlooking it, the Christian Science Church, and right down the street is the Lake Forest Library. All of are on Deerpath Road. This scene was funny though. At first Conrad is shown skipping east towards downtown and then they show him in front of the library skipping west... granted, the library is east of the Church and park... so the directors didn't exactly edit the film factually.
The part of the movie where Calvin and his friend are running is at Forest Park, which is a large park on Lake Drive overlooking Lake Michigan. There are also large limestone stairs going down to the beach that I was talking about before, however, I dont think the stairs were there when the movie was filmed. The park still looks the same today, with the same stone light posts and everything. Even the bench looking through the trees to Lake Michigan stands there still today.
The parts in the film where Conrad visits the shrink are in Highland Park. I don't know exactly where in Highland Park, but I'm sure it's around downtown, near Davis Street. The part of the movie when Conrad runs away after he finds out his friend killed herself are shot in Market Square. I could even recognize the shoe store that is on the corner. He calls the shrink at a pay phone at the Lake Forest Train Station.
The McDonald's he and his friend go to is no longer a McD's. Today it is a Burger King, and it has since been remodled, but still with an 80's flair. The scene with Calvin and Beth in Houston is not Houston at all. It is the Deerpath Golf Club on Deerpath road. I drive past the golf club everyday, and I can tell by the layout of the fairways and the trees etc that it is Deerpath. I felt sorry for the actors though. In Houston it may have been 65 or 70 and they had to dress like it was, but Im sure in Lake Forest it was 30 and windy. The ladies didnt even have on jackets. BURRR!
Well, I think I've got all of the scenes down in the movie. I guarantee that they are all very accurate. I still have yet to find the Jarrett's house. I know I've seen it before. From the shot of Jarrett running out of his grandparent's house, I can tell it's a house in east Lake Forest too. Probably not too far from Lake Drive. I'll find that one too. OH!! And I don't know which mall that was in the movie where Beth is shopping for Christmas, but I think it was Northbrook Court in Northbrook, about 10 minutes away.
Also, just as a side note. I was amazed to see the actors driving American cars. The only American cars you see in Lake Forest today are VERY few Suburbans and even fewer Cadillacs. Nearly everyone drives a Lexus SUV, there are many Range Rovers and Bentleys, and ofcourse many have a Ferrari tucked away in the garage for sunny days. The cocktail parties are still the same today as they were in the movie... except... noone has lime green carpet anymore. It has been replaced with marble!
[Our eternal thanks to Jesse Williams for all the above superb locations info]
The scene in the restaurant with Conrad and the girl from the psychiatric hospital was filmed at "The Original House of Pancakes" on Green Bay Road in Wilmette. A photo of Robert Redford, taken at the time of the shooting for the film, hangs above the cash register at the front of the restaurant. [Thanks to S. Jordheim]
Can you help? Do you know any of the Lake Forest, Illinois (or any other) filming locations used for Ordinary People? [Please send them in]
|  | | | | | The original score was composed by veteran composer Marvin Hamlisch. It's very fitting to the movie's emotional content, but very similar to "Terms of Endearment".
The music soundtrack of Ordinary People is Canon In D. -Thanks to Lia_iko
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