I saw where they said that Kim Kardashian is going to be on the new season of Dancing with the Stars. I can not stand her at all, and if she really is on it...it might kill it for me. I think she is such a waste of space on TV.
There has been a clip being played over and over again that Anderson Cooper talks about Living Lohan.....I love this clip....I want to write Anderson Cooper and tell him I am now a huge fan of his, just because what he says here:
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Posted by StevenHW (Member # 509) on :
quote:Originally posted by ISIS: I saw where they said that Kim Kardashian is going to be on the new season of "Dancing with the Stars." I can not stand her at all, and if she really is on it...it might kill it for me. I think she is such a waste of space on TV...
Yep, Kim is indeed going to be a contestant on the next season of DWTS. You are going to have to hope she gets voted off as early as possible!
I also noticed that Cloris Leachman is also going to be on the show too, even though she's 82 years old!
Ted McGinley has also been mentioned as a contestant. Considering that he has been on lots of TV series that shortly went downhill after he appeared on it, maybe the show will be cancelled after this season!
If you don't know what I mean, I'm referring to the "Ted McGinley Curse" from the website, JumpTheShark.com, where he usually appears on the TV shows that are on its decline.
I remember Cloris Leachman too....she has to be the oldest person they have had yet.
Someone seriously is going to die on that show.
They have had Marie Osmond collapse/faint....and numerous injuries, and people getting food poisoning....if Ted Mcginley has a curse along with him...then they really are doomed.
Why could they not put Meredith Salenger on there instead of Kim Kardashian. Meredith really wanted on too.
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Posted by xchazx (Member # 7158) on :
quote:Originally posted by StevenHW: </font><blockquote><font size="1" face=""Century Gothic", Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face=""Century Gothic", Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by ISIS: I saw where they said that Kim Kardashian is going to be on the new season of "Dancing with the Stars." I can not stand her at all, and if she really is on it...it might kill it for me. I think she is such a waste of space on TV...</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face=""Century Gothic", Verdana, Arial">Yep, Kim is indeed going to be a contestant on the next season of DWTS. You are going to have to hope she gets voted off as early as possible!
I also noticed that Cloris Leachman is also going to be on the show too, even though she's 82 years old!
Ted McGinley has also been mentioned as a contestant. Considering that he has been on lots of TV series that shortly went downhill after he appeared on it, maybe the show will be cancelled after this season!
If you don't know what I mean, I'm referring to the "Ted McGinley Curse" from the website, JumpTheShark.com, where he usually appears on the TV shows that are on its decline.
that curse of ted mcginley must have skipped married with children because that show was great and dare i say better with ted. he was not only great on that show, i may even have liked him a little more than steve.
kim k is a nobody who has to do crap like this to justify her being any sort of celeb. she's easy on the eyes but i could do without ever hearing about her again. i don't watch reality tv so i don't care what she does on this dancing show.
Posted by ISIS (Member # 1780) on :
Well said.....
I don't think she's easy on the eyes either...she actually is scary looking to me, and I have seen her without make up on. ICK.
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Posted by Muffy Tepperman (Member # 1551) on :
the only reality show I watch is Project Runway......because it's so much about being creative and innovative......to me thats interesting and talent! I avoid all others at all costs!
lets start a campaign to bring back more silly sitcoms.........look how popular the Office has become!!
Posted by Riptide (Member # 457) on :
The biggest problem with Kim K for me is that her whole celeb schtick came from a sex tape. Sure her father was famous in the OJ case, but I guess this is the new instant celeb/TMZ era. Remember when people had to work hard to break into the industry? I don't want to sound like an old stick in the mud, but these days buying old TV shows/retro movies saves me the time of sifting through more new shows I don't want to see.
Posted by ISIS (Member # 1780) on :
Here's Kim with not much make up on....
she just looks like a regular person:
All these new celebrity women are only know for 1 thing.
Posted by Sam 'The Made Man' Hain (Member # 3150) on :
All?
Posted by pettyfan (Member # 2260) on :
I don't know much about Kim Kardashian, just that she's Reggie Bush's girlfriend and is on that show Keeping Up With the Kardashians. I've never been a fan of Lindsay Lohan...I liked Mean Girls and she was okay in Herbie, but that was it. I've always felt (and I know many won't agree with me) that some of the stuff that she did...drunk driving, drugs, etc., was just as bad or worse than what Paris Hilton did, but Paris got sent to jail and Lindsay got off with a much lighter punishment. Oh well, just my opinion.
Posted by MotleyRulz (Member # 3598) on :
Even if she is a nobody she is mighty easy on the eyes (alot hotter than Meredith). What all are they known for? That's a mighty vague and wide assumption I'm assuming your about to make which will pretty much generalize every new celebrity woman. C'mon c'mon what is it?partying?sex tapes?
Posted by 80'sRocked (Member # 6979) on :
I'll change the subject right now before this thread blows up like so many others have.
I'll chime in on xchazx and Muffy's comments on sitcoms....yes bring them back if they are as brilliant as Married with Children and Seinfeld (my 2 favorite comedies of all time.) Enough of this reality show garbage.....some are not bad, but most are just a waste of air time. In my opinion that is.
Posted by ISIS (Member # 1780) on :
When I said ALL....I meant all the ones that were mentioned on this thread already...
I am all for them bringing back Sitcoms...like The Facts of Life, Bosom Buddies, Silver Spoons, and Double Trouble....that would be great...but I don't see it happening.
Posted by mamamiasweetpeaches (Member # 1715) on :
The problem with Reality TV is yeah, SOME people like it...but there are also some of us who DONT. Where are the options? I find myself buying box sets of The Oldies like HAPPY DAYS, THE ODD COUPLE and such because tehre is really nothing on TV I want to watch except for THE SIMPSONS.
I used to love reading gossip rags and watching shows like TMZ but now- its like "Who ARE these people???" They are "celebrities" for doing nothing or being on a Reality TV show. I am tired of picking up a magazine and seeing people from THE HILLS or whatever in there. It's like "Why should THEY be on the cover and not, say Sean Connery...or someone like that who actually has paid his dues! Hahaha.
I have never seen the Lohan Show but from what I understand Lindsay - the only Lohan worth mention - isnt even ON it! Who the Hell wants to follow her sister and mother around? What makes them celbrities? Its like me telling you I'm going to see MADONNA's sister sing! Unless MADONNA was gonna show up WHO'D CARE????
Posted by journey (Member # 7316) on :
What I hate most is how the entire Hollywood community constantly reinforces all this trashy low-class behavior. If you carry on like a drugged-up mess, a maniac or a prostitute, you end up getting your own TV show, movie parts and spokemanship deals. Look at Paris Hilton. She has absolutely no talent as an actress or singer, and no charismatic personality to speak of. But she stumbles out of a few clubs drunk and flashes the papparazi, makes a couple home-made pornos and gets into a few catfights with other obnoxious halfwit celebs and - presto! - she's offered the sun and moon. On the other hand people who work hard, hone their craft, and conduct themselves with the utmost professionalism and class, have to take a backseat. Not to mention the message they're sending to young women: if you want attention and success - whore it up. They've been packaging and selling that false message to little girls since Britney Spears first came on the scene. I find it reprehensible.
Posted by MotleyRulz (Member # 3598) on :
Oh ok usually when someone says all these new celebrity women it pretty much generalizes them all....... Posted by ISIS (Member # 1780) on :
Journey and Mamamia-that's exactly what I mean...If I say the same things...people jump on me...because that's exactly how I feel. I am so tired of there being nothing but garbage on TV...and it's true about women like Paris- she isn't even good looking either...there are tons of gorgeous women out there...who don't flash everything they own to everyone. I always found that to be so gross...that total strangers know every square inch of someone's else body that they don't even know.
Think about the behavior that celebrities get away with...and you think about yourself...and if you did those things...what would people say? I can really see myself staggering all over my town drunk, with my shirt hanging off...as if...
Journey is so right...that they get paid a ton of money for acting like pigs. Paris was given a ton of money just to show up a party at a club...and she was given a commercial for some hamburger place....and it was totally disgusting...it was like the owner of the company had a crush on her...and figured if he dangled enough money in front of her...he'd get his own video of her half naked. And he did.
They can't even form a complete sentence.
That's the thing that drives me crazy about certain women....guys think they are hot to look at-so they give them money-...but underneath all the make-up and fake hair, and fake fingernails, and fake body parts- what kind of person are they...and the utter self centered stuff they do...with the money they spend on stupid purses for their dogs...could feed a poor family for an entire year-but do they care?
That's what TV has become. And then you have all the photographers getting rich off these people with no talent. It is so sad.
I think about it all the time, about where we go to from here.
Posted by StevenHW (Member # 509) on :
People like Kim Kardashian, Paris Hilton, Britney Spears, etc. are simply just "famous for being famous."
Nothing new about that, though. Just a newer and younger generation has adopted the old showbiz philosophy that "Any publicity is good publicity. There is no such thing as 'bad' publicity."
I remember Zsa Zsa Gabor getting in trouble for hitting a police officer, and her showbiz "career" has long since faded out decades before. She got a lot of breaks simply because of her diva attitude and celebrity status.
I'm not saying all young celebrities are acting badly, it's just that the ones you hear about get all the attention if they are out nightclubbing, getting arrested for DUI, going to rehab, buying multimillion dollar homes or condos they don't need (or won't live in), gambling at the Las Vegas tables, etc. They wouldn't be doing that if they weren't in showbiz or born into a wealthy family (such as Kim or Paris).
The reason why you hear more about today's young celebs --- when you compare them to earlier decades --- is that there are more entertainment news outlets, cable channels, paparazzi, and gossip blogs than ever before. And it's getting to be more and more competitive. And since the young kids don't have very much applicable work skills in the "real" world, they might as well milk all the publicity for what it's worth until the public or the media no longer cares about them.
Speaking of the media...
In 1974, the first "People" magazine came out, and started a wave of lightweight journalism that persists to this day. The stuff you see nowadays being reported in the entertainment section, sometimes are now the leading news story. That would never happen in the days when Walter Cronkite was anchoring the news! I mean, can you imagine the older newscasters like Cronkite, John Chancellor, Frank Reynolds, Huntley and Brinkley, etc. leading off their reports with what Brad Pitt & Angelina Jolie did, or what nightclub Paris Hilton went to? Posted by MotleyRulz (Member # 3598) on :
Everybody's fake to an extent. Consider makeup for example.......
Posted by Riptide (Member # 457) on :
Hey, you dissing the Crue too? LOL.
Posted by Sam 'The Made Man' Hain (Member # 3150) on :
quote:Originally posted by StevenHW: People like Kim Kardashian, Paris Hilton, Britney Spears, etc. are simply just "famous for being famous."
In Britney's defense she became famous initially for her talent. The crazy stuff came afterwards. Same could be said for Lindsey lohan and hell even Michael Jackson.
Posted by ISIS (Member # 1780) on :
She was not that talented....even she claims she isn't a very good singer.
Posted by mamamiasweetpeaches (Member # 1715) on :
Not a huge Britney fan but will say she paid her dues (MICKEY MOUSE CLUB anyone? Hahaha) and at least puts out an album every once and while. Lindsay Lohan ONCE was a pretty good child actress. The ones that grind my gears are Paris Hilton, Kim Kardashian, The people from LAGUNA BEACH: THE REAL O.C....... They are nobodies. I would rather watch my neighbors drink tea!
Do you remember when we were younger (many many mannnnnnny years ago) when something slipped about a celeb it was Earth-shattering. Let's use "Rock Hudson Is Gay/ Rock Hudson Has AIDS" as an example. Now for years no one knew he was gay and had he not gotten AIDS we probably never would have known. Peoples private lives were private. We knew just enough about celebrities without having photos of them falling over wasted or falling out of their clothes. Remember how shocking it was when people like Joan Crawford's kid or Big Crosby's kid wrote a Tell All Book? We were shocked cuz we had no idea there might have been trouble In Paradise! Maybe part of the reason we looked up to these people is because we DIDN'T know their dirty laundry. Nowadays "celbrities" put it all out there. And most of the ones that bug me (which are on the low end of the food chain) actually go out of their way to be photographed...so, no, its not always a case of "Oh poor them -the photogs CAUGHT them 'being bad'." A lot of these people knock it up a notch when they KNOW the cameras are around (How many times can you spread em getting out of a limo and FORGET your not wearing undies?????)
Posted by MotleyRulz (Member # 3598) on :
Some folks just jealous I guess especially the older ones.........
Posted by journey (Member # 7316) on :
quote:Originally posted by ISIS: She was not that talented....even she claims she isn't a very good singer.
You can thank technology for that. Nowadays you can use ProTools to correct pitch, timber, etc. and edit together songs from little bits and pieces of hundreds of takes. Then there's all the electronic processing and vocal sweetening that's used. In the old days, every thing was so minimalist, you couldn't hide behind the wall of sound and layers of effects. Singers and instrumentalists performed everything all together in one room and had only a handful of takes to get it right. You had to be good (not to mention extremely well rehearsed) to cut it in an unforgiving environment like that.
Britney Spears is completely manufactured. She has a thin, non-distinct voice with no range to speak of. She was selected by some record exec or producer and they picked out the songs and packaged it all. She didn't write any of them, she didn't arrange any of them, she didn't choreograph anything, she can't sing anything live, she didn't conceive of any of her music videos, she didn't decide who to work with or what musical direction she should take...she didn't even pick out her own outfits. There's no artistry to be found anywhere in that mass marketing exercise. People who dig her music ought to go thank her producers. And the only reason her career is still going at this point is because she's turned herself into a tabloid circus which Hollywood perceives as bona fide star power.
Posted by ISIS (Member # 1780) on :
Right on! Posted by StevenHW (Member # 509) on :
quote:Originally posted by mamamiasweetpeaches: (How many times can you spread em getting out of a limo and FORGET you're not wearing undies?????)
Happens to me all the time! Posted by Sam 'The Made Man' Hain (Member # 3150) on :
If I had a nickel for everytime that happened to me I'd have like a dime or something
Posted by MotleyRulz (Member # 3598) on :
Oh me too. I'd be 2 1/2 cents richer because this one time I was half showing.....
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Posted by MotleyRulz (Member # 3598) on :
Any proof she used ProTools just curious? The original system called Sound Tools was released in 1989 so you can probably bet money that a fair share of 80s artists used them as well......
Posted by journey (Member # 7316) on :
I was just generalizing - I don't have any inside knowledge of her recording sessions. I'm just saying that in the modern digital era (which includes the late '80s), you can compensate for a ton of lackluster vocal talent through the use of these powerful technological tools. Then add the MTV revolution into the mix, where it's important to make everything visually appealling, and suddenly you have both the desire and the means to concentrate wholly on image. That becomes the top priority, and if the performer doesn't actually have the talent to go along with it - no problem - that can be fixed in the studio. You couldn't do that in the '50s too easily. Even the teen idols like Frankie and Fabian had to have some modicome of singing ability. Today Paris Hilton and Lindsey Lohan, who can't sing worth a lick, are able to release platinum albums and become "recording artists". Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that all the big pop stars of today are talentless. Christina Aguilera...Alicia Keyes...Justin Timberlake...they've all got plenty of talent to go along with the looks.
Posted by bandit (Member # 6296) on :
I totally agree with you journey.As i do have worked/producing a bit music in some recording studios myself over the years.I know the game..
Posted by mamamiasweetpeaches (Member # 1715) on :
"some folks are just jealous, especially the older ones".....
As if! I am not jealous of people like Kim Kardashian who have to GET PEED ON in a homemade porn to "Make It Big".
I AM jealous of people like JOAN JETT, LITA FORD, ANN and NANCY WILSON of HEART, STEVIE KNICKS, PAT BENATAR, SHEILA E.......Women who actually picked up an instrument, learned how to play it and now whail! THOSE are the people I am jealous of.
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Posted by ISIS (Member # 1780) on :
Yeah...that's right...you tell em....
Who the heck would be jealous of a total slut...anyone can be one.
Posted by Riptide (Member # 457) on :
Over the years, has the reclusive Kim Richards ever commented on the outrageous antics of her niece Paris? Let's just hope they never cast Paris in Tuff Turf 2, lordy, lordy.
Posted by Sam 'The Made Man' Hain (Member # 3150) on :
quote:Originally posted by ISIS: Yeah...that's right...you tell em....
Who the heck would be jealous of a total slut...anyone can be one.
I wouldn't say so, lord knows I've sure tried to be one without much success.
Posted by ISIS (Member # 1780) on :
You didn't try hard enough.
Posted by ISIS (Member # 1780) on :
There's still time.
Posted by MotleyRulz (Member # 3598) on :
Try flashing the cameras more Sam when they take your pic getting out of the limo it worked for me........
Posted by Sam 'The Made Man' Hain (Member # 3150) on :
Well I'm usually the first one to take off his top at all the parties. I just need to learn how to close the deal.
Posted by ISIS (Member # 1780) on :
Next time...just arrive topless..and skip taking it off when you get there.
Posted by MotleyRulz (Member # 3598) on :
I usually wear a painted on body tuxedo to parties and eventually sweat it off by the night's end. It's a way of slowly introducing one's self and being formal at the same time while not being overly formal.........
Posted by journey (Member # 7316) on :
Well there's your mistake right there. You arrive overdressed.
Posted by Riptide (Member # 457) on :
Anyone find TMZ just a little creepy? When They gather in those rooms and are plotting celebrity moevement like they are embarking on some military campaign.
Posted by journey (Member # 7316) on :
If I was a rich celebrity I'd hire a bunch of photography students to follow around the most annoying paparazzi all day and night and harass them endlessly with pictures and questions. Then I'd buy ad space in major newspapers and magazines and publish all the most embarrassing photos of them for all to see. Give them a taste of their own medicine.
Posted by Riptide (Member # 457) on :
Best suggestion I've heard in years. Surprised Clooney didn't think of that.
Posted by mamamiasweetpeaches (Member # 1715) on :
I got no pity for the ones who agree to let cameras follow them around for their "Reality Shows" and then complain when someone takes their picture. You cant say "I want my privacy!" and then let a crew come to your house and tape you 24-7.
Posted by MotleyRulz (Member # 3598) on :
Celebs can still lead a private lifestyle if they want. I have no compassion for 'em. If you do stuff do get in the papers and your well known you may as well expect it......
Posted by journey (Member # 7316) on :
quote:Originally posted by mamamiasweetpeaches: I got no pity for the ones who agree to let cameras follow them around for their "Reality Shows" and then complain when someone takes their picture. You cant say "I want my privacy!" and then let a crew come to your house and tape you 24-7.
Well, yeah, the Paris Hilton's of the world are certainly not being unfairly harassed - they court that attention, so I don't have much sympathy for them either. I was thinking more in terms of celebrities like Will Smith who ask them politely not to photograph and harass his kids - in the process potentially making them targets for wouldbe stalkers and kidnappers - and get ignored. Or the guys like Clooney who are minding their own business and have to suffer these jerks getting up in their face and cussing them out hoping that they can provoke a reaction and get a lawsuit (with their buddy strategically placed 20 feet away armed with a videocamera to capture the "assault"). How long could you stand to have some jerk in your face calling you names, saying nasty crap to your wife/girlfriend and refusing to let you walk away? I'd probably be clubbing the guy after 60 seconds of that abuse (10, if my kids were the target). I can sympathize with them in those situations. The other one is when they're at the hospital watching a loved one die or at a funeral and these jackals want to get up in their face and ask insulting questions and snap photos of their families grieving. That's just ridiculous. Judges ought to make allowances for minor assaults under those circumstances.
Posted by ISIS (Member # 1780) on :
I feel that celebrities are regular people...but they have a cool job...but that doesn't mean that they should be harrassed.
The one person I see getting slammed now...is Rachael Ray...I watched her shows on the Food Channel...and watched her climb up the ladder...but she worked her butt off doing it...and I think about how hard she really works...and how many different shows she was doing...and now she has a talk show and her own line of cookware...so the tabloids are just picking her life apart looking for dirt...they always are setting people up by saying someone is having an affair. People who work hard for their fame...deserve some time alone too...they aren't public property.
They work hard...and they don't deserve to have ever second of their day infringed on...
Now people like the Lohans and Kardashians...the only thing they are being known for is their disfunctional messed up life ...and if they don't go out and get a DUI...then nobody would know who they were...it isn't like they are out there working for a charity or actually working hard like Rachael Ray...they do nothing...that's why I have no idea why anybody finds them interesting....I can go to the local bar around here...and see the same type of women hanging in there...doing the exact same stuff they are doing...so why do people find that interesting?
Posted by MotleyRulz (Member # 3598) on :
I don't doubt Ray worked hard, but alot of her recipes are borrowed from others (ask chef Anthony Bourdain) and she didn't really hit stardom until Oprah associated with her.....
Posted by ISIS (Member # 1780) on :
Yeah...well I am sure some of her recipes are borrowed...everyone's are...if they came up with every new recipe on their own...that would be pretty amazing.
She was doing at least 3 TV shows on the Food Channel...she did $40 a day- where she travelled all over the world, and ate for the whole day for $40...and she did 30 minute meals, and then she did "Tasty Travels".
I am pretty sure she still does at least 2 of them...plus her talk show....I have no idea where they ever find time to cook in real life.
Paula Dean is the same way....because once they hit super stardom...then they have photo shoots...commercials, interviews, publicity engagements...it is endless...and demanding....
My friend asked me if I would want to do a TV show in the Washington DC area...and I said...no way...I'd die... I have no problem talking...but talking and cooking at the same time...the whole time your doing stuff...without stuttering...that in itself is an amazing accomplishment. Rachel Ray never shut up....I have always been amazed by people being able to do that.
I can have friends sitting at stools in my kitchen and I can talk to them and cook at the same time, but I could never try and explain out loud what I was doing...every step of the way.
So...I believe anyone who makes it big in the food industry...with or without their own recipes...they deserve it.
Posted by MotleyRulz (Member # 3598) on :
I don't. It's the same as a musician making it big by using samples of someone else's music: unoriginal.......
Posted by ISIS (Member # 1780) on :
Well....look at making a pizza ...it has 4 ingredients in it...but everyone does it different.
I always find it fascinating...how everyone can make macaroni and cheese completely different...everyone can make mashed potatoes different....
so...those things are not original...but you can make them your own...by the way you do things.
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