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Cheers atomik it comes out on Blu Ray on July 6th from Australian label Umbrella Entertainment http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Road-Games-Blu-ray/153972/ so look forward to picking it up!
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This 1981 thriller Eyewitness aka The Janitor starring Sigourney Weaver,William Hurt,Christopher Plummer and James Woods comes out on Blu Ray
http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Eyewitness-Blu-ray/153974/ in a few months time,never see it before but it looks interesting and has a great cast!

Anyone seen this one and if so is it worth checking out?

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I like it. It's not a perfect film, but well worth watching. I think it also goes by the title 'The Janitor'.
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I found Eyewitness a bit boring actually. Maybe i should give it another try?
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I am with Logan. Eyewitness is a good,though flawed, film. It's best asset is the heartfelt performance by William Hurt, who was on a roll at the beginning of his career with Body Heat, Altered States, and this film.
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I was about to mention William Hurt. Early to mid period Hurt was really good, and it's easy to see why he became a top tier actor (and then it went to his head). Sigourney is also worth watching in anything, and this was during her most interesting period (to me at least).

Hurt seemed to get bigger as the decade progressed and arguably peaked with things like 'Accidental Tourist' and 'Children of a Lesser God', but seemed to slide in the 90's. I always think of Debra Winger too, as an 80's actress who was massive for a while and then slid into obscurity. I watched 'Mike's Murder' again recently, and although the film was a mess (studio interference) her performance was really strong.

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I agree with you about William Hurt. I would add that I really liked his performances in Kiss of the Spider Woman, The Big Chill, Broadcast News, and The Doctor too in his peak period. After that, it just seemed to be a series of terrible script choices as he headed into middle age. He did resurface with that great colorful scene in A History of Violence, but he never really made a comeback. I think that it was a couple of things. When he first started, he was like a bright flash, a quirky, not-totally-handsome but not-unattractive, intelligent leading man for the 80s. After a series of really terrific, gutsy, no-holds-barred performcnes, he got spoiled/arrogant/lazy. And then, I think, that as time went on--and he gave the exact same line readings and performance in every role--people just gave up and forgot about William Hurt, the once top-tier Oscar-winning star. I also read back in the day that alcohol and, perhaps, some craziness crept in. (As I recall, I read somewhere that when he was married to his ex-wife, Mary Beth, he once threw himself down on the sidewalk in front of her and rolled around shouting, "You are trying to control my Id!" LOL) It's a real shame. He is a very talented guy when he wants to be.

As for Debra Winger, another performer that I really like, it's a lot of the same thing. She wasn't the most attractive actress of her generation--not that she was ugly--but she could be really sexy when she needed to. (She's fantastic in An Officer and A Gentleman.) And it's worse for an actress heading into middle age. Unless you are Meryl Streep, Judi Dench, or Helen Mirren, the parts just aren't there. Heck, Glenn Close and Jessica Lange wound up on TV shows.

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A couple here that I'm curious about -


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Anyone seen the 1994 action comedy The Cowboy Way starring Woody Harrelson and Kiefer Sutherland and if so is it any good?

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The 1993 fantasy comedy Heart And Souls Starring Robert Downey Jr,Elisabeth Shue and Charles Grodin.

Worth checking out?

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The Cowboy Way is neither poingnant or significant in any way, but I've always enjoyed it as a disposable action comedy. Woody Harrelson is pretty damn funny here and has decent chemistry with Sutherland.
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Cheers Peter,i like both actors so I imagined it wouldn't be too bad a watch!
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Totally agree with Peter's summation of Cowboy Way - entertaining but nothing special.

Heart and Souls was also passably entertaining with a good cast and some good scenes, but it didn't work that well as a film. If I recall correctly it was very didactic and sentimental. I've seen it twice and it hasn't stuck with me at all.

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Cheers Logan for your take on them,i've had them in my Amazon basket for ages and they've just recently dropped in price so I'm tempted to pick them up!


I'm not a bond fanatic but I did enjoy quite a few of his 80s outings especially the last one I watched The Living Daylights,i've only got two left from that decade to view and that is -

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and Never Say Never Again,i noticed that Octopussy at the moment is really cheap on Blu and is just over 4 Uk pounds for a New & sealed copy.

Is it any good?

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Octopussy is one of the better Roger Moore Bonds, and Never Say Never Again is pretty underrated. It was nice to see Connery back, and Klaus Maria Brandauer, a truly great actor, is an excellent Bond villain.
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I love the Moore Bond movies. Octopussy isn't his best but my advice would be go for it Warrior. Both are worth a watch.
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I would rank Octopussy in the low end of Bonds, not as bad as A View to a Kill, but still, Moore should have quit after For Your Eyes Only IMO.

Never Say Never Again is a fun anomaly, some parts horrible, some parts watchable.... and a few parts that actually works. But flawed as it is, it is still Bond (sort of) and 80's Bond at that, which makes it a must-see in my book.

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Cheers guys,i went for it and just purchased Octopussy,only Never Say Never Again from 80s Bond to check out after that!
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Look at the length of Moore's legs in that poster! Totally unreal!

I like Octopussy, but Moore was getting too old to be Bond at that point. He wanted to stop after For Your Eyes Only but they talked him back. They did it again for View to a Kill, which he was far too old for.

Never Say Never Again is actually quite good, but it's not an 'official' Bond film. Connery owned the rights to Thunderball, so he remade it. I believe the two movies almost went head-to-head back in '83. I like it, and Connery is clearly having a blast.

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Kevin McClory owned the rights to Thunderball, not Connery... and this was his baby.
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How would you guys rate Timothy Dalton in his two outings as Bond?

I really liked The Living Daylight's but wasn't so overstruck with a Licence To Kill but thought Timothy Dalton was pretty decent both times!

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I like both Dalton films very much.
I think that every Connery and Moore Bond films are worth getting but i should rewatch them to give better reviews.

I also recommend the sole Lazenby movie On Her Majesty’s Secret Service.

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I thought that Timothy Dalton was badly underrated as Bond. He certainly had his moments. I like The Living Daylights a lot--I think that it is one of the best post-Connery Bonds--but Licence to Kill not so much. Of all the Bonds, I thought that it had the cheapest, crummiest look to it, and while Robert Davi is a fine actor, they didn't give him much to do as the sort of ordinary villain.
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Dalton is my favorite Bond, then Lazenby, then Connery, then Moore, then Brosnan... and then Craig, though I don't care much for him and his run of films.
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Kevin McClory owned the rights to Thunderball, not Connery... and this was his baby.
Ah, I'd heard Connery. I just knew the Broccoli's didn't own the rights.

I like Dalton, but he was a Bond out of time. They tried to gritty Bond up a little and the public weren't ready for it yet.

I had heard that many Bond actors were the one before the one they wanted:

They wanted Moore when they got Lazenby.
They wanted Dalton when they got Moore.
They wanted Brosnan when they got Dalton.

That could be wrong though. Makes for an interesting 'what if?' though.

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Octopussy is better than Moonraker, which itself is far above A View to a Kill, which is a terrible Bond film. I also like Octopussy better than For Your Eyes Only, which I think is pretty dull and overrated. The Man with the Golden Gun is just OK, should've been better. The two best Moore Bonds are Live and Let Die and The Spy Who Love Me by a wide margin.
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"They wanted Moore when they got Lazenby.
They wanted Dalton when they got Moore.
They wanted Brosnan when they got Dalton."

Yes, all these are true. Also, Burt Reynolds was offered the role when they panicked in 1970 being without a Bond after Lazenby dropped out. Though to Reynold's credit he declined, stating an englishman should play the part. Broccoli and co. were still in panic mode and hired American actor John Gavin, but in the 11th hour, Connery came back for a cool million, and John Gavin was paid in full to step aside.

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