My mom bought this movie today. The write up about it sounded pretty good. Has anyone seen it, and what did you think? I might be going to watch it.
Posted by 80'sRocked (Member # 6979) on :
ISIS, this movie is PURE genius! You must watch it. Now, I must say, there is a good amount of violence and it is a bit twisted and sick at times. You must get past that to enjoy the nature of this brilliant flick. The acting is incredible and casted perfectly. You have to like this one.
Posted by ISIS (Member # 1780) on :
I didn't have time to watch it tonight. My guests checked in, and they were hungry and nothing was open around here, so I heated them up some pizza...and hung out talking to them for awhile. I'll probably watch it tomorrow.
It definately seemed brutal, from the write up.
It sounds like a mass killing spree.
I'll probably have nightmares.
It seems that crime is really up...I try not to watch the news ...because of violence on TV. So, I am hoping I can handle it.
The Brave One...wasn't as bad as I thought it would be...it just was horrible how you can be walking along and living your life, and be so happy one minute, and then some maniac takes it all away from you in a second, and it's all over.
Posted by StevenHW (Member # 509) on :
quote:Originally posted by ISIS: My mom bought this movie today. The write up about it sounded pretty good. Has anyone seen it, and what did you think? I might be going to watch it.
I have not seen the movie yet. But it's made the same guys who made one of your favorite 80's movies: "Raising Arizona"!
Keep in mind that this one is NOT a comedy!
Posted by ISIS (Member # 1780) on :
I love Raising Arizona. I think that movie is brilliant. That probably is the movie I quote stuff from in real life from, the most.
I was looking at my kitty-Boo...and I said "I love him so much!". That's out of Raising Arizona.
Posted by ISIS (Member # 1780) on :
I watched it last night. My mom and I are still trying to figure out what we just watched.
It was nothing but a string of mass killings. That killer killed anything that came in contact with him...it didn't matter if it was a bird (that's the only thing that he missed on) or if it was someone in a store...he was a mess.
Spoilers*****
They never explain what his connection to the drug dealers was...they never tell you who the executive is that hires Woody Harrelson...Woody Harrelson's character is totally usless .
I was excited to see Tess Harper in a movie again, when I saw her at the beginning...but she had about 2 minutes (if that) in the whole movie.
I have no clue why they set it in the year 1980- it took halfway through the movie for me to figure out what year it was, and it actually had absolutely nothing to do with anything...unless it was to set the charcater played by Josh Brolin up for being a Veitnam Vet.
What ends up happening to him, made the whole movie pointless, I kept thinking that's not how it could end....what would be the point of knowing all that Nam stuff....when someone can blow you away with a can of compressed air.
I kept thinking...who thought such a weird and twisted storyline up. I thought...put some more nutty ideas in to people's heads.
There was no justice to that movie.
The part with Tommy Lee Jones talking to his father (which was Barry Corbin-who I thought died years ago-and I was shocked to see it was actually him)...that whole part was stupid, I have no clue what they were talking about.
Tommy Lee Jones was totally useless in that movie.
The guy that played the psychopath-he reminded me of Donald Stroud (from the Amityville Horror).
I never saw him before in anything. I thought ..boy ,he takes good care of his hairdo...for such a nut, when did he find time to style his hair.
I can not understand why anyone would write a movie like that...there was nothing to it at all.
I do thinking the acting was good at times....I thought Josh Brolin resembled the Warthog from Hell ...Randall "Tex" Cobb....I forgot that Steven had said it was the guys who did Raising Arizona. Now...reading that again....it seemed like it was the prequel to Raising Arizona on how the Warthog became who he was.
I never would ever want to spend any time ever watching 5 minutes of that movie again-once was way too much already.
I watched it to the end...because I wanted to see that nut get killed. But.. I thought the whole thing was a mess.
Posted by ISIS (Member # 1780) on :
I don't even understand why they titled the movie "No Country for Old Men".
They should have titled it...
Heads or Tails
Posted by Sam 'The Made Man' Hain (Member # 3150) on :
The people who vote for the Academy Awards would disagree with you on this movie as it did win Best Picture last year.
Maybe it would have been better to tell you that instead of that the people who made this movie are the same people who made "Raising Arizona" which they are but that they're also the same people who made "Fargo"
So one of the reasons you don't like this movie is because it's a string of mass killings yet you love the Friday the 13th movies which are nothing more than a bunch of mass killings.
The man who played the psychopath, Javier Bardem, has appeared in many spanish speaking movies but this was his first english speaking roll. He won an academy award for best supporting actor. His character Anton I feel is one of the best villains in movie history.
I don't see what the big deal is about what year the movie was set in to me that just seems like a reason for you to nitpick. But it also took me quite sometime to figure that it was set in 1980.
TLJ was pretty uselss. He's a small town sheriff in west Texas who got thrown into a situation that far exceeded his expertise and he pretty much acknowledged that fact.
I'll have to watch the speech again at the end, can't remember quite was said but in a nutshell what is said there pretty much explains on why the movie was called "No Country For Old Men"
Posted by pettyfan (Member # 2260) on :
Argh, I STILL haven't seen this!! It's never on at a time when I can watch it. I think my mom has the DVD though, so I'm gonna have to get it and watch it. I think the previews look good.
Posted by 80'sRocked (Member # 6979) on :
quote:Originally posted by ISIS: There was no justice to that movie.
I give up.
Posted by ISIS (Member # 1780) on :
I can explain why I like Friday the 13th over this...they are completely different movies.
There wasn't one moment in this movie that wasn't depressing. I couldn't get this movie out of my head...it's been driving me crazy all day...I had a pillow over my head when he would blow people away with the compressed air. The storyline could have been OK....but they kind of made it really far fetched.
****Spoilers***
Why would Llewelyn take that dying man a jug of water, and risk being caught? Why didn't he just grab his wife, and get on a plane and be gone. He had no kids, he had no life...he lived in a trailer...why go back? He had already left and nobody saw him...then he goes back...what a dope.
Who was the executive guy?? What did he have to do with any of it? Was he the owner of the drugs? Was Chirugh a partner with him? Where did Chirugh come from...was he wandering around killing people his whole life, or did it just start happening? His voice creeped me out. Yeah he made a great bad guy...he was nuts..and I will give him that...that he acted nuts so well than he probably did earn an Academy Award for it...but the movie itself was pointless.
It's like...it made you think the whole way through that Llewelyn would kill that maniac...and that is really how it should have ended...I kept hoping the whole way through for him to kill him. But, then what happens...just came out of no where.
Who were the Mexicans?? The ones that were running away from the hotel in the truck, and the one guy who took the mother-in-law's bag for her...and did she die from cancer or did Chirugh kill her?
I thought that maybe Tommy Lee Jones would set up Chirugh with the wife...and trap him...or that Tommy Lee would catch Llewlyn first, and they would fake his death and then get Chirugh...but they didn't do any of that...so Tommy Lee was in there for nothing, he never saved anyone, he never caught anyone...he was just there wandering around the aftermath.
I can't remember everything his Dad said...but it was pretty much about Life and Death...and all that...but he rambled and mumbled , and talked in a circle so badly...that you couldn't find the moral to the story in anything that was said.
Maybe he meant that Tommy Lee was getting Old ...and he needed to retire and hang it up, because the new criminals that were out there...were too much for him to handle.
I knew the trucks were from the 70's...but even today someone can still have a truck that looks like that...so it was hard to figure the year...since alot of it took place in the dessert...who could ever tell by that...what year it was.
Did Chirugh kill that woman at the trailer park, and the man at the store? I couldn't even watch it when he was talking to the man, because he was so weird...and I kept thinking about how uneasy that man was getting from the things he was saying, and it made me so uncomfortable....I thought...don't you kill that innocent old man...he didn't do anything to anybody...I thought I heard the police mention somewhere that he killed him.
I hated the scene at the beginning where he strangles that poor policeman, that was so awful...that man was fighting for his life, and knew he was going to die...that was just so horrible...and the thing I can't understand about why they even make these movies...is maybe everyone on here is mentally stable enough to handle them (maybe not)...but there are whacked out people out there watching this movie too...and who knows what they think when they see stuff like that.
I saw 2 guys the other day, when my son and I were getting gas, and we went in to Arby's for a french fry...they looked like they were going to rob the place...the one guy looked like James Brolin in the Amityville Horror...they gave me the creeps...and I think about how many people are out there in the world that don't have any kind of remorse for anything...and they can't be reasoned with...and they are walking the streets.
I never should have watched this movie.
Posted by MotleyRulz (Member # 3598) on :
Suprise suprise. Did anybody faint?
Posted by ISIS (Member # 1780) on :
Well...how come nobody gave me any answers...just because I hated it...doesn't mean that I don't want some answers...that's why I hated it.
Posted by Sam 'The Made Man' Hain (Member # 3150) on :
****Spoilers***
Why would Llewelyn take that dying man a jug of water, and risk being caught? Why didn't he just grab his wife, and get on a plane and be gone. He had no kids, he had no life...he lived in a trailer...why go back? He had already left and nobody saw him...then he goes back...what a dope.
The whole movie was about choices and fate. In a moment of weakness Llewellyn felt a moment of compassion for the dying mexican who asked him earlier that day for some water so he decided to take him some. He also probably thought nobody would see him during the middle of the night. Some people lives Anton left up to chance by giving them the oppurtunity to call the toss of a coin. If they made the choice to not call it then that was the same as getting it wrong. Llewellyn also had a choice, during his phone conversation with Anton; Chigurh gave him the choice of bringing the money to him so he could spare his wife/girlfriends life. He told him that he was going to kill him regardless but at least he could spare his wife/girlfriends life by bringing the monry to him. Llewellyn decided to still take his chances and kept the money thus sealing the fate of his wife/girlfriend. Anton never got his chance to kill Llewellyn but he did keep his promise to him by going to kill his wife/girlfriend. In a moment of compassion Anton gave her a chance to call the flip of a coin. She said that she wouldn't call it. We never see him kill her but by the way he checked the bottoms of his boots as he left her house we can assume that he did kill her.
Who was the executive guy?? What did he have to do with any of it? Was he the owner of the drugs? Was Chirugh a partner with him? Where did Chirugh come from...was he wandering around killing people his whole life, or did it just start happening? His voice creeped me out. Yeah he made a great bad guy...he was nuts..and I will give him that...that he acted nuts so well than he probably did earn an Academy Award for it...but the movie itself was pointless.
The executive guy was just some crooked business man who was a drug runner. He was actually the one who hired the mexicans, Chigurh and Wells(Woody Harrelson) First he hired the Mexicans but they more less botched things up so then he hired Chigurh who it appears is just some hired hitman who goes from job to job killing people for anybody who would be willing to pay him. Then the executive got paranoid and worried about the ever increasing body count so then he hired Wells who more less is also a hired gun like Chigurh and who also knows Chigurh for somewhere in his past. Anton got the drop on him before wells could on him. Once Anton killed Wells he got ****ed at the executive for hitring Wells that he went and killed the executive.
It's like...it made you think the whole way through that Llewelyn would kill that maniac...and that is really how it should have ended...I kept hoping the whole way through for him to kill him. But, then what happens...just came out of no where.
It's called a twist ending. Took me by surprise too but i rather enjoyed it. It kind of gives Anton this unstoppable force vibe just like you get with Michael Myers or Jason Vorhees
Who were the Mexicans?? The ones that were running away from the hotel in the truck, and the one guy who took the mother-in-law's bag for her...and did she die from cancer or did Chirugh kill her?
The mexicans like I said were hired by the executive. The guy that helped her with her bag was one of the mexicans who knew she was Llewellyn's mother-in-law and just wanted to see if by his being nice to her he could get any info to llewellyn's whereabouts. It appears that she just died from natural causes.
I thought that maybe Tommy Lee Jones would set up Chirugh with the wife...and trap him...or that Tommy Lee would catch Llewlyn first, and they would fake his death and then get Chirugh...but they didn't do any of that...so Tommy Lee was in there for nothing, he never saved anyone, he never caught anyone...he was just there wandering around the aftermath.
Trying to set up Chigurh would never have worked as Anton always called the shots plus there was no way for him to contact Anton anywasys as he was always two steps behind him the whole way.
I can't remember everything his Dad said...but it was pretty much about Life and Death...and all that...but he rambled and mumbled , and talked in a circle so badly...that you couldn't find the moral to the story in anything that was said.
Sadly there was really no moral to be found here. Sometimes you're the bug and sometimes you're the windshield. In this case Anton was the windshield
I knew the trucks were from the 70's...but even today someone can still have a truck that looks like that...so it was hard to figure the year...since alot of it took place in the dessert...who could ever tell by that...what year it was.
The time period was pretty irrelevant. But I did pick up something last night when I watched it again that I missed the first time that tells you what year the movie happened much earlier in the movie. When Anton is flipping the coin in the gas station he mentions that the coin is a 1958 and then says that would make the coin 22 years old.
Did Chirugh kill that woman at the trailer park, and the man at the store? I couldn't even watch it when he was talking to the man, because he was so weird...and I kept thinking about how uneasy that man was getting from the things he was saying, and it made me so uncomfortable....I thought...don't you kill that innocent old man...he didn't do anything to anybody...I thought I heard the police mention somewhere that he killed him.
I don't think he killed either one of them. The old man in the gas stationcalled the toss of the coin correctly thus sparing his life. I also feel that he didn't kill the woman in the trailer park. He was definitely ****ed at her for not telling him where Llewellyn worked but I also feel that he respected her for not breaking protocol. Anton lives by a very structured lifestyle almost too structured that there shouldn't be any variations what so ever from the rules. So by her saying that she's not allowed to give out information probably saved her life. If she would have said that she's not allowed to give out any info but tells Anton anyways she would have been killed or at least have her life hanging by the toss of a coin. I think the dead man they were talking about was the one guy he pulled over in the cop car
I hated the scene at the beginning where he strangles that poor policeman, that was so awful...that man was fighting for his life, and knew he was going to die...that was just so horrible...and the thing I can't understand about why they even make these movies...is maybe everyone on here is mentally stable enough to handle them (maybe not)...but there are whacked out people out there watching this movie too...and who knows what they think when they see stuff like that.
It set up the tone of the movie rather nicely I thought. Posted by ISIS (Member # 1780) on :
****SPOILER ALERT******
Well Sam...I really appreciate you sorting it out...some of it was what I figured too, but I wanted to make sure that I was understanding it.
I got the date by the quarter...that's how and when I realized it was 1980. Because when it started...I thought it was right now happening.
The guy getting strangled did let me know that the guy was crazy...why was he arrested in the first place?
I totally lost count of how many people he killed. The fact that he did get away...that made it seem like room for a sequel....but that movie did not have a sequel type feel to it...that was another weird part about it.
So....did the Mexicans kill Llewlyn?
Posted by jdocster (Member # 5752) on :
quote: Originally posted by ISIS: There was no justice to that movie.
quote: I give up.
heheeee....
Actually, ISIS, watch the movie again, ignore the killing and pay attention to all of the "details" during the movie. This will explain everything to you. Who knows, maybe you will like it more if you understand it.
Posted by jdocster (Member # 5752) on :
quote: Originally posted by ISIS: There was no justice to that movie.
quote: I give up.
heheeee....
Actually, ISIS, watch the movie again, ignore the killing and pay attention to all of the "details" during the movie. This will explain everything to you. It's hard to like a movie if you're confused by it. Who knows, maybe you will like it more if you understand it. Posted by 80'sRocked (Member # 6979) on :
Your right Jdoc....that's definitely worth saying twice. Posted by ISIS (Member # 1780) on :
How do you over look the killing stuff?
That was the whole movie.
Posted by MotleyRulz (Member # 3598) on :
Because the main character was a sociopathic assassin which was one of the main premises of the whole movie.....
[ 07. October 2008, 20:42: Message edited by: MotleyRulz ]
Posted by Sam 'The Made Man' Hain (Member # 3150) on :
Good call Motley on him being a sociopath. I think that's a much more accurate diagnosis for him then psycopath.
NOMS what's your expertise say?
Posted by Stitch Groover (Member # 2895) on :
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face=""Century Gothic", Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face=""Century Gothic", Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Sam 'The Made Man' Hain: TLJ was pretty uselss. He's a small town sheriff in west Texas who got thrown into a situation that far exceeded his expertise and he pretty much acknowledged that fact.
I'll have to watch the speech again at the end, can't remember quite was said but in a nutshell what is said there pretty much explains on why the movie was called "No Country For Old Men" </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face=""Century Gothic", Verdana, Arial">
That pretty much sums up why it's called "No Country for Old Men". TLJ is the old man, and the world has changed to a point where the worst of man has gone beyond what he can comprehend (or wants to comprehend
Personally, I loved the film, but I was also left with a lot of questions. I don't really know why I liked it. Or maybe to be precise, I appreciated it - I don't know if it's a film that can be enjoyed, rather it's a film that is appreciated.
[ 08. October 2008, 01:01: Message edited by: Stitch Groover ]
Posted by Everything is NOMS (Member # 2688) on :
quote:Originally posted by Sam 'The Made Man' Hain: Good call Motley on him being a sociopath. I think that's a much more accurate diagnosis for him then psycopath.
NOMS what's your expertise say?
I wouldn't like to comment on something I have never seen...
No Country for Old Noms Posted by Sam 'The Made Man' Hain (Member # 3150) on :
well guess you know what movie you'll be watching next then Posted by Everything is NOMS (Member # 2688) on :
Just ordered it on HD DVD based on the recommendations on here. A bargain at £6.00 (around $13)
HD Noms Posted by Sam 'The Made Man' Hain (Member # 3150) on :
sweet. I think you'll like it.
Posted by ISIS (Member # 1780) on :
I agree too! I think he'll LOVE Love Love it!
Posted by 80'sRocked (Member # 6979) on :
quote:Originally posted by Sam 'The Made Man' Hain: Good call Motley on him being a sociopath. I think that's a much more accurate diagnosis for him then psycopath.
Whatever you want to call it....he was a freakin' genius playing the part.
Posted by MotleyRulz (Member # 3598) on :
Let us know what you think Noms when you get the chance to watch it...
Posted by Everything is NOMS (Member # 2688) on :
Will Do. It should be here within the next few days...
Nomsiopath Posted by jimpickens (Member # 5801) on :
The book was much better than the movie.
Posted by 80'sRocked (Member # 6979) on :
quote:Originally posted by jimpickens: The book was much better than the movie.
That's the case with all movies that were based on books....the book will always be better because your imagination paints your own picture of what you are reading.
Posted by journey (Member # 7316) on :
Yeah, I think a lot of these issues plaguing Isis and others would be clearer if they were more familiar with Cormac McCarthy's writing. He's big on bleak tones and characters being resigned to their fates. Anyone else read The Road? It's being made into a movie with Viggo Mortensen playing the father. John Hillcoat is directing, which seems like a perfect fit considering that he made the excellent, and equally bleak, Western, The Proposition. I'm really looking forward to seeing it. The book was a brilliant piece of literary minimalism. I couldn't get it out of my head for a long time after reading it.
Posted by NOMS in Real Life (Member # 2688) on :
Movie arrived over the weekend and I have to say that I really enjoyed it. Well deservingh of its Oscar for best supporting actor and some really unexpected twists, thanks for the recommendations guys.
Noms Country For Old Men Posted by Sam 'The Made Man' Hain (Member # 3150) on :
Glad you liked it NOMS.
Posted by TKO (Member # 1471) on :
No Country for Old Men was an awesome movie. I also have to admit that prior to this thread there were bits and pieces that I didn't fully understand. I will certainly give it a second viewing.
A bit uncertain about the sequel though.
Posted by 80'sRocked (Member # 6979) on :
quote:Originally posted by TKO: No Country for Old Men was an awesome movie. I also have to admit that prior to this thread there were bits and pieces that I didn't fully understand. I will certainly give it a second viewing.
A bit uncertain about the sequel though.
HAHAHA! Great one TKO. Posted by jdocster (Member # 5752) on :
Poop!
Posted by MotleyRulz (Member # 3598) on :
Based on your experiences NOMS, would you consider the killer to be a psychopath or sociopath? My aunt is a clinical psychologist and upon watching the movie she said she felt he was a definite sociopath.....
P.S. Glad you liked the movie.......
Posted by NOMS in Real Life (Member # 2688) on :
Yup. Definite sociopath in my opinion also.
Brilliant acting by someone who claims to abhor violence...
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