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Originally posted by ISIS:
I wasn't sure where to put this topic. I wanted to see if anyone else saw it, and what they thought? I saw it this afternoon. We thought it was awful. This was the number 1 movie we had been looking forward to. I love the original "Raiders of the Lost Arc". It doesn't get any better than that. When we saw that Karen Allen was going to be returning to this one, I thought it would be really cool. They could have done so many things with it...but they didn't...it ended up being more along the lines of Close Encounters of the Third Kind. I honestly wished someone would have told us not to go see it, because it totally made us have a bad feel for Indiana Jones...because they totally messed this movie up. My son even wore an Indiana Jones t-shirt to the movie. It was a huge disappointment.

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Guess your review didn't surprise me in the least. LOL
 

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Posted by deathbystereo80 (Member # 2005) on :
 
Has anyone else seen this movie? I was planning to watch it sometime this week, but I've been hearing nothing but bad reviews. I'd love to get more opinions!
 

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Posted by ISIS (Member # 1780) on :
 
Yeah...it isn't just my opinion about it...I haven't heard one good review about it either.

I had heard that the end was stupid, before I even went to see it...but I wanted to see it anyway.

I never really liked any of the other Indiana Jones movies like I did Raiders of the Lost Arc....

But...Go see it, and see what you think....I just wanted to hear from anyone else who had seen it to see if they felt the same way.
 

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Posted by StevenHW (Member # 509) on :
 
I have not seen the sequels, and I am not interested in seeing this new one either. In retrospect, I am not as high on the first one ("Raiders Of The Lost Ark") anymore. Maybe because the original had too many slow spots in-between.

Also, this series was intended to be a tribute to the old small-budget short-subject serials of the 30's and 40's. But the Indiana Jones series are too long and too big-budgeted for that. Same thing for another movie that came out a few years ago, called "Sky Captain & The World Of Tomorrow".
 

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Posted by pettyfan (Member # 2260) on :
 
I look at it like this...I want to see this movie. I could care less about reviews from "critics." I've found that just because a movie has good reviews means nothing at all. So I will see it, maybe buy it, and form my own opinion.
 

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Posted by Devolution (Member # 1731) on :
 
Devolution here,

It will be interesting. But I think I need to see it on the big screen.

We are DEVO
 

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Posted by Phanstar (Member # 4235) on :
 
I loved it!!!!!! I don't understand why people are smashing on it???
 

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Posted by MotleyRulz (Member # 3598) on :
 
I thought it was awesome. We went to the first midnight showing of it here and with 20 minutes left in the movie the lens broke! We got free passes and got to see it all over again though...
 

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Posted by jdocster04 (Member # 5752) on :
 
Cool... I'm going this weekend...
 

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Posted by Stitch G (Member # 2895) on :
 
I thought it was very good, but it wasn't as good as Raiders or Last Crusade, but it was marginally better than Temple of Doom (which I really loved).

I will admit the plot was kind of strange for an Indy movie, but considering the far fetched plots of the others (religious relics, hearts being pulled out of people chests while still beating) it's not so strange I guess.

Excellent effects tho, nothing that was obviously CG, and great acting.
 

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Posted by jdocster04 (Member # 5752) on :
 
OK. I just saw it and I think it's good! You can't keep comparing this movie to the original. I think they did a good job making this movie. Honestly, for the theme and the premise of this movie, I don't see how they could have done better. I'm basing this on the storyline. Albeit a bit far fetched.

*** Possible spoiler ***

Did anyone happen to notice something just as they were were driving out of the warehouse? Did anyone see the crate at the bottom of the screen? Did you see what was in the crate?

[ 07. June 2008, 15:33: Message edited by: jdocster04 ]
 

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Posted by Chris the CandyFanMan (Member # 3197) on :
 
That's pretty much how Ebert saw it, noting in his positive review that Indy exists in his own world and should be judged largely by the facets of that world.
 

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Posted by jdocster04 (Member # 5752) on :
 
"My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives."

Errr....ahhh... I Liked it too...
 

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Posted by x0x0ilymucho (Member # 6772) on :
 
it was a really good movie. personally i like the originals. im still not sure why they made this 4th one i thought the trilogy was fine the way it was. but it was pretty good
 

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Posted by ISIS (Member # 1780) on :
 
My son said that he read a review on movieweb.com that he thought was what was exactly what we were thinking when we saw this movie. The person who wrote it was saying how he was a fan of the first three...he thought Raiders of the Lost Arc was probably one of the best movies ever made, and 2 and 3 were good...but that this movie was just like every other new movie that has come out, with totally over the top CGI effects that show people doing impossible things and are nothing but action sequence after action sequence...and none of it is believable...he said that most new movies that's all they do....and I realized that is EXACTLY what I think is goofed up about new movies. They do action sequences that can't possibly happen. I remember watching the new Die Hard movie...and I didn't mind it as bad as this one, but after looking back at it...the action was so over the top...people fall off the sides of buildings...and they scale fire escapes like spider-man, and they run and jump on moving vehicles....and that whole scene with Bruce Wilis and the girl in the elevator...is so over the top...and that's what everyone has become so use to seeing...that they don't even think about...that it can't possibly be real.

I know that movies are movies...and your not suppose to read in to everything...but they use CGI in everything anymore, and the movies look like videogames.

I didn't like how they basically thew Karen Allen back in to this movie...she was tough in the first one...they made her seem like a total nag, and she was calling him "dear"-that just did not fit her character.


Raiders of the Lost Arc is on right now on USA...it's at the end....their faces are melting off....that is cool special effects....I just like the way this movie flows- they tried to almost redo scenes from Raiders in this new one, and it was too many years later to be doing that.
 

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Posted by P.S. It's Paul.... (Member # 1022) on :
 
They redid the whole melting faces thing at the end of Last Crtusade as well, and there wasn't the outcry to 'nor rehash the same old scenes' that I read above.

Indy 4 is the biggest grossing movie of the year so far, on both sides of the atlantic. It's also given way more positive reviews than poor, and Die Hard 4 was the same last year.

I appreciate that with some movies, the originals were so good that almost anything short of perfection will pale by comparison, but these are NOT bad movies. They are pretty good movies that you are judging against the originals, unfairly.
 

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Posted by MotleyRulz (Member # 3598) on :
 
I honestly didn't see alot of CGI in the movie when compared to alot of others. There were actually many real stunts. I've actually saw alot of good reviews about it and as someone who was in the theater when we were seeing it said," They aren't trying to remake and/or compare with Raiders of the Lost Ark they are simply telling another chapter."
 

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Posted by P.S. It's Paul.... (Member # 1022) on :
 
And they have set themselves up for a further chapter with the ending....

@ jdocster04: Yup - saw the crate contents. That may well be the next one...

"Raiders of the Found Ark", anyone?
 

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Posted by jdocster04 (Member # 5752) on :
 

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Originally posted by P.S. It's Paul....:
And they have set themselves up for a further chapter with the ending....

@ jdocster04: Yup - saw the crate contents. That may well be the next one...

"Raiders of the Found Ark", anyone?

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It certainly opens the door for it...
 

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Posted by ISIS (Member # 1780) on :
 
I watched the "The Last Crusade" last night. I know I saw it on a date in the 80's, but I could not remember anything about it. My son likes it, so I wanted to see it now to compare it to the new one. It was made in 1989. I always have liked River Phoenix....but I thought he was doing a pretty bad acting job in this movie, and his hairdo was definately not a style you would have seen on a boy in 1912...so I thought that was weird....like why didn't they give him a better hair cut to fit the part...


I never saw the girl who played Elsa...in anything else, so I looked her up, and she was only 23 when they made that movie...she looked way older than that. Sean Connery seemed really old in that movie...and I know he's still alive....he actually was only 59 in that movie...he is only 12 years older in real life ...than Harrison Ford...so they must have been trying to make him seem older than he was.

It was pretty darn far fetched and flaky too at the end, with the guy in the tomb that had been there protecting the Holy Grail for 700 years...

so maybe I just haven't understood how these movies work, and how there's no way anything that happens in them can ever happen for real,

where I was thinking before that your suppose to believe that it has a slight chance of being real. Not!
 

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