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This is amazing. Looks like what all the fans have been looking for. It has it all, everything is there, even the missing scores from 1 and 2.

March 26

Here is the link

http://www.varesesarabande.com/details.asp?pid=vcl%2D0307%2D1059

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Completely awesome news! Thanks for the heads up, Turbo.

Hey, Brownie...this amazing or what!

FINALLY Part III is available. Just listened to the sample track for the final moments of KK III and wow. Though it says "The Final Blow 4:05", it only plays 1:20 of the track. But Conti's strings sound amazing.

Plus (I'm guessing) we'll get the tournament music from part 1, as it says "Daniel's Moment of Truth 1:52". So I played the tracks from my bootleg of "Daniel's Courage" and the piece of the tournament from the opening of KK II, and it seemed to add up to about 1:52. As well as "No Mercy" and Miyagi fixing Daniel's leg.

And as Turbo said, the fight in Yukie's garden between Miyagi and Chozen is now featured, along with a few other brief tracks.

Bonzaiii!!!!

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i swear to GOD i dreamt this at weekend!!!!!!!!!!!

OMG.. dudes, I'm not even playing

DAMN, this is absolutely AMAZING news.

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!

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Just listened to all the snippets....

McFly, Turbo....... this is a truly amazing day

Feel The Night (Demo) (Bill Conti and Baxter Robinson) Performed by Baxter Robinson (1:56)

!!!!!!!!! we get the movie version of this too... heheheheheh

ordered my copy [Smile]

[ 19. March 2007, 15:29: Message edited by: Brown ]

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I like the movie version of "Feel The Night" much better than the version on the soundtrack. In the movie it has the mixed in female vocals and it makes the song so much better in my view. The soundtrack version with just Baxter Robinson is good, but to me it is flat, while with the female vocals the song is much more enjoyable.

McFly, Brown, it appears the additions (the score pieces never released) are,

Karate Kid:

4. Dan Ducks Out (:55)
5. Bonsai Tree (:43)
6. Decorate The Gym (:39)
11. Feel The Night (Demo) (Bill Conti and Baxter Robinson) Performed by Baxter Robinson (1:56)
12. Troubled Lovers (:33)
14. Paint The Fence (3:11)
19. Japanese Hand Clap (:40)
20. No Mercy (:23)
21. Daniel’s Moment Of Truth (1:52)

Karate Kid Part II:

15. Miyagi’s Attack (1:00) (This was a great piece in the movie and I remember sometime back someone said they had been looking for the song for like 10 years or something and had no luck, maybe they will comeback to this site and see what is going on).

Correct me if I am wrong it appears the bootleg copy has 24 tracks for part II and the new one to be released by Varese Sarabande has 20. Maybe they have combined a couple and made them one track.

I cant wait for Part III, I love the final piece of music while Daniel performs Kata and then as it closes with him raising Miyagi's arm.

Praise to those you brought these scores out and made right what was for many years wrong.

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Wow, Turbo, didn't notice the track issue. Kind of concerns me. But even if Varese dropped some, still have our trusty bootleg [Smile] .

The main problem is that they've retitled the tracks we've come to know. Like "Miyagi vs. Kreese", is that now "No Mercy" (track 2, part II)? In comparing the times of the Varese tracks with the boot, it looks as though they may have dropped "Miyagi goes to Airport", "Daniel Talks on Plane", and "The one who dead Doesn't".

And some of the other times don't match up with various other tracks for part II. Plus, part I's boot only had 13 tracks...Varese part 1 has 23 tracks!!! So this will be interesting.

All I'd do is combine the boot with the Varese release for my own Ultimate Edition, lol. I won't care, as long as the new tracks include Miyagi's fight in Yukie's garden, and the tournament stuff from part 1. And of course that part III include Daniel beating Barnes.

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^HAHA, I'll be combining too...

First track I noticed missing was the "Storm" from KKII.. its like 4 mins long! I cant see anything that really fits the bill

in any event, nothing will bring me down.. I'd have dropped $100 on this, never mind 50. Lol.

Let the good times roll [Smile]

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Man, another one that slipped by me!! The Storm is an awesome action track, can't live without that one. "Daniel and Kumiko" is either them on the dock or the tea ceremony. But "Daniel Leaves" throws me off as well. Is that when he leaves Miyagi's hut and goes to the tea ceremony? Argh. The Storm could be "Old Friends", which runs 4:47. The Storm runs 4:44.

It also looks like the O Bon Dance isn't on there as well. It seems "Moon Spots" is Kumiko's Performance, they're both about the same time.

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I am positive that "The Storm" is now "Old Friends". As you pointed out McFly they have a 3 second difference and also in the film Miyagi tells Sato during that scene "I got you old friend". Pretty sure "Old Friends" is "The Storm".

Also, I think the short piece of score played when Miyagi witnesses the bike aftermath is not included. I think that it is the only score piece not released from the original.

"Daniel Leaves" is when Miyagi and Sato are in preparation for their fight and also when Dan and Kumiko have the tea ceremony.

"Daniel and Kumiko" track is when they are on the dock and she pours the rice in the water.

They have as you pointed out McFly changed some of the names, yes you are right "Miyagi vs. Kreese" is now "No Mercy".

I think "Daniel Talks on Plane"(1:17) and The One Who Dead Doesn't"(0:40) from the boot is now the track "Time Flies"(1:50) in the new set.

Also, it appears that "Miyagi Goes to Airport"(2:02) from the boot is now "Honor Very Serious"(2:02). I think the part where Miyagi is packing and tells Daniel honor very serious is the first past of the track and the second part is Miyagi waiting for Daniel to come by and see him off to the airport.

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Good spots, guys

I take it you've both ordered?!

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Yes, I ordered my copy and really have been waiting for this to happen for a very long time.

Dont get me wrong as a die-hard fan of the music and the movies, I just dont know why they would skip out on a few pieces of score.

For example they have included track 20. No Mercy (:23), but failed to put in score where Miyagi witnessed the Bike aftermath, I think that runs like 0:18 seconds and they dont include the short piece of score from part 2 when Daniel is putting Miyagi's medal on that rosewood.

I would think they have those pieces, but maybe they dont and with this new release and the boot, almost all of score music is there, but those short pieces are not there.

I am still very happy with what we will be getting, really cant believe part 3 is there and I actually liked some of the score from the Next Karate Kid as well.

Something that is interesting to me is that you know the soundtrack to Karate Kid Part III (pop soundtrack), well the last song is called "Love Theme from Karate Kid III" and I dont recall that piece of music from the film and also it is not included as a score piece in this new set to be released. It runs 4:13. It sounds like nothing from the movie and is it me or was there no "love" between Dan and Jessica, more of just a good friendship. Maybe they originally were to be more than friends and it got scratched and the score piece remained. It sounds more like music from the Next Karate Kid than from KK3.

Any thoughts?

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I'm pretty sure that theme is called "Love Theme From The Karate Kid" (not part III) though i may be wrong.. (i dont have the cd)

I also have "love theme from Karate Kid II" which doesn't appear either.. I dunno whats up with that.

What will be the first songs that you play (lol) ..?

For me, its definitely gonna be "final blow", the kata training from KKIII and the original demo version of "feel the night" - I can't wait for that [Smile]

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btw, I'm sure you'll all have "Love Theme From The Karate Kid Part II" but just in case you don't, here it is [Smile]

http://download.yousendit.com/E101A46D55FC2318

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It would be interesting to know how many advance copies of the score Varese has sold. I know it's a very niche market but a limited edition of 2500 doesn't seem a lot. I would have thought they'd have sold out pretty quickly.

On another note . . . If anyone has the time, inclination, knowledge and desire it would be good to see a complete track listing of all the KK music (from the first movie at least) including both the pop and instrumental scores in the order they appear in the film, and including any unavailable tracks. If not, I s'pose I could just go and work it out for myself...

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Hey Brown, I am positive the track reads "Love Theme from Karate Kid III by Bill Conti.

Thanks for the link to Love Theme From The Karate Kid Part II. I have it, but others may not.

I think I am going to play "The Hidden Tree" from KK 3, I really like the scene and the music is spectacular.

To respond to your question gigawatt?, I think honestly a lot of people dont know about it yet, I have been a major fan for many years just waiting for this music and I only found out on the 13th of this month that this set was going to be released. I also think a lot of people have the boot and they think that is it and that the complete score would never be released. Possibly the release of the boot on ebay and other sites, could be a reason people are not going after this set. Essentially those with boot in hand would have a lot of 1 and 2, the score pieces, so they just might not want to shell out $44 for two additional soundtrack scores. You never know, I personally think it is worth it, plus the hidden stuff from 1 and 2. Great Stuff.

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I'm sure you're right. The only reason I found out about the release was through your post on this forum. Thanks!
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A note for UK buyers:

On the Varese website it says "For added convenience, our European customers may now order online directly from Colosseum Records Germany. I followed the link and The Karate Kid scores are priced at 56 Euros which converts to about £38!!! If you order directly from Varese it's $44 or £22.

Added covenience? Added cost more like.

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^LOL! Gotta love the UK / US exchange rate

gigawatt, lets have our fingers crossed that our CD's don't attract Import Tax and Import Duty - which IS possible and could amount to around £14.. I wouldn't care too much though to be honest

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quote:
Originally posted by Miyagi-Turbo:
Hey Brown, I am positive the track reads "Love Theme from Karate Kid III by Bill Conti.

I checked it out, its actual title is just "Love Theme From The Karate Kid"

http://www.mystrands.com/album/38533
http://www.soundtrackcollector.com/catalog/soundtrackdetail.php?movieid=1910
http://www.amazon.com/Karate-Kid-Pt-3/dp/B000008H7Y

in any event, its not on the new release and it is a "must have" for KK fans!

-Ian

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Hey Ian,

you are right, I just dont know why when I bring it up in my Itunes collection it reads Love Theme from Karate Kid III. You know when you load the cd in and Itunes figures out the names, track time and album, well that is what it came up with, but after seeing your post I am going to just change it.

I think it is good track, but love theme, love theme to what, it has the Karate Kid flavor, but kind of out of place for part 3, just my view.

Hopefully those of you in the UK have no problems getting the Varese Release.

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£14 import tax! Hmm - I'm not feeling so smug now. I've bought quite a few CDs and DVDs from the US before and never paid tax but there's a first time for everything. Anyway it's released today so I guess we'll find out soon . . .

Turbo - you'll probably get your copy first. Will you put up a review to whet our appetites?

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Sure gigawatt? if I get it before you guys I will be sure to write about it here. However if you, Brown, McFly or anyone else gets it first it would be great to see what all of you think of it. I really cant wait for the set, really looking forward to many score pieces. Looking forward to "Dan Ducks Out", love that scene in the film and when he goes up the stairs to his apartment and sees the fixed bike, really a beautiful piece of score music there.

Sorry to hear about the import tax, wish you guys didnt have to pay that.

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i've had CD's and DVD's from the US before and NEVER been charged import fee's either - I've only EVER got import fee's when I recently ordered some clothes and a basketball..

Hopefully we'll be good to go. I'll expect mine some time next week probably.. post up your reviews ASAP [Smile] !

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Score and Pop Music Listing for The Karate Kid

Here is the order of songs which appear in the Karate Kid. If it is a score it will have a (S) next to it and if it is from the pop soundtrack it will have a (P).

1)Main Title (S)
2)Bop-Bop On The Beach (P)
3)(It Takes) Two To Tango (P)
4)The Ride (Never Found) (P)
5)Fite Night (S)
6)Cruel Summer (Not on soundtrack - available) (P)
7)Bumpy Ride (S)
8)Miyagi and Bike Aftermath (never released) (S)
9)Rythm Man (P)
10)Dan Ducks Out (S)
11)Bonsai Tree (S)
12)Decorate The Gym (S)
13)Please Answer Me (not on soundtrack) (P)
14)Tough Love (P)
15)No Shelter (P)
16)Miyagi Rattles the Bones (S)
17)Miyagi Intercedes (S)
18)On to Miyagi's (S)
19)The Pact (S)
20)Feel The Night (P) and (S)
21)Troubled Lovers (S)
22)Japanese Sander (S)
23)Paint the Fence (S)
24)Daniel Sees the Bird (S)
25)Fish and Train (S)
26)Training Hard (S)
27)Young Hearts (P)
28)The Kiss (S)
29)Your the Best (P)
30)Japanese Hand Clap (S)
31)No Mercy (S)
32)Daniel's Moment of Truth (S)
33)The Moment of Truth (P)

*All score Titles taken from new Varese Release, link at top of thread.
*There is music playing right after Fish and Train (S) and it plays in the country club scene. If anyone has info on this song please post. It is also used in part 2 as well.
*The Ride by Matches, Please Answer Me by Broken Edge and Cruel Summer by Bananarama were in the movie, but never appeared on the pop soundtrack, the original version and the more recent one. To my knowledge Cruel Summer is the only one of the three you can get. I have heard that someone out there might have Please Answer Me, but still it is an elusive pop piece.
*In conclusion, only one piece of score music for the original is not included in the new Varese Release and it is when Miaygi comes out of his shed to view the bike aftermath.

McFly, Brown, gigawatt? and others feel free to correct what I have missed or any errors.

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Thanks for taking the time to do this Turbo. Exactly what I was after.
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